TV: Current and Recent

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Re: TV: Current and Recent

Postby Bizza » Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:28 pm

i0th wrote:Pretty sure a show about a thousand year old time travelling alien who fights monsters made our of jelly can have the lead character as a woman.


Exactly, can't believe how many angry tear strewn rants I've read on this since the announcement.

It's a Sci-Fi show, you'd think the fanbase would be a bit more open minded. Apparently not. :rolleyes:
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Re: TV: Current and Recent

Postby Gandalf the Red » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:00 pm

It'll be cancelled. Calling it now.
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Re: TV: Current and Recent

Postby Ghost » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:19 pm

I'll still give the new series a go but I can't see it going back to a pure sci fi show without agendas like the classic who. Last series was so weird when the doctor mentioned Donald trump. Why would a time lord mention Donald trump? Needs to be written by a sci fi writer.
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Re: TV: Current and Recent

Postby Bizza » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:24 am

Gandalf the Red wrote:It'll be cancelled. Calling it now.


It won't, calling it now.
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Re: TV: Current and Recent

Postby houston4044 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:37 am

Never been a fan of Dr Who but wow, with the reaction in my workplace you could easily be mistaken that they'd just cast a giraffe or something to play the Dr :lol:

Thing is with all these plot loops, it's sci-fi, can't they just write their way around it? They're not exactly bound by reality.
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Re: TV: Current and Recent

Postby Gandalf the Red » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:30 am

Bizza wrote:
Gandalf the Red wrote:It'll be cancelled. Calling it now.


It won't, calling it now.


If they don't get any viewers and merchandise sales plummet then it's finished. Women and young girls don't buy DVDs and merchandise, men and boys do. Go into any Sci Fi shop and count the women.

Just look at Top Gear. One of the biggest brands worldwide, went from over 10 million UK viewers to just over 1.5 million in one year. They lost over 300 million viewers worldwide. That's hanging by a thread and probably won't last much longer.

The BBC isn't averse to cancelling programmes. They killed Doctor Who off last time and I reckon they are doing the same now.

Red Dwarf is a prime example. Added a woman character, thereby changing the dynamic of the programme and the show died.
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Re: TV: Current and Recent

Postby i0th » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:45 am

Look at how much Disney fucked up Star Wars by having female leads in Force Awakens & Rogue One, they did shit at the box office, sold no merch and completely killed the franchise and Star Wars was never heard from again. [/sarcasm]
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Re: TV: Current and Recent

Postby Gandalf the Red » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:13 pm

But they never changed their main characters to Lucy Skywalker, Hannah Solo and Dorothy Vader half way through.

No problem with having female characters. Just the fact they are doing this for all the wrong reasons.

As I said there are already Time Ladies, so why didn't they just have a new character or even an established one such as Romana rather than ruin an established programme?

And I've got every right to complain about it since I pay for my TV licence and have watched the show since the days they still had Police Boxes in the street.
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Re: TV: Current and Recent

Postby houston4044 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:23 pm

Gandalf the Red wrote:Red Dwarf is a prime example. Added a woman character, thereby changing the dynamic of the programme and the show died.


Red Dwarf didn't go under because of the introduction of Kochanski, look at the revived series, she wasn't the issue, it's the drop in the quality of writing that's the problem. As for Dr Who I can't comment, don't watch it.
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Re: TV: Current and Recent

Postby WorMzy » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:44 pm

Bit salty in here.

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Re: TV: Current and Recent

Postby i0th » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:20 pm

Mate, "The Doctor" is a gender neutral name, it's not like each time a regeneration happens each doctor has had to keep the same pair of testicles.

Or maybe the do, maybe each time you've seen them on screen they still have William Hartnell's wrinkly old ballsack swinging around between their legs.
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Re: TV: Current and Recent

Postby Ghost » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:21 pm

I think the youngsters will take to the female doctor because they are used to the program being a more human drama than a sci fi show. It'll be the old boys who are fans of the old doctor who that won't.

I'm intrigued though because in internet world there loads of people saying of course the doctor can regenerate into a woman, it's part of the show's history and if you don't know that you aren't a fan. Surely it's only been mentioned in the last few seasons though right? Was it ever mentioned in classic who? People make it sound like it's always been the case not that the most recent writer just decided to add it.

Red Dwarf 7 and 8 weren't well received because of the long gap from 6, the change of style and not being very funny. Never bothered me that they added Chloe Annett. She was hot ha ha!
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Re: TV: Current and Recent

Postby WorMzy » Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:10 am

So GoT and Rick and Morty are back. :yes:

I appreciate that GoT is heading towards a conclusion, and aims to get there in 13 episodes stretching over two seasons (only 3 left in this season, and 9 total!), but it really does feel rushed. I'm still enjoying it, but everything feels forced and disjointed. It's like everyone suddenly gained teleportation powers.

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Re: TV: Current and Recent

Postby i0th » Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:13 am

Count Arthur Strong hasn't been renewed, best comedy BBC have put out in fucking years!
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Re: TV: Current and Recent

Postby Gandalf the Red » Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:37 am

I'm a massive Count Arthur Strong fan, even went to a couple of radio recordings in Manchester a few years ago. But I reckon the TV series was extremely poor.
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