Or that most of the extra deaths were not caused by CoviD19.slayerslays wrote:That Coronavirus deaths weren't included in the second graph
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Metalchemyst wrote:Or that most of the extra deaths were not caused by CoviD19.slayerslays wrote:That Coronavirus deaths weren't included in the second graph
Yeah I'd say it's more likely that the covid 19 deaths just weren't included in the second graph. Are you suggesting 6000 people suddenly just died in a week of something else when there's hardly any road traffic accidents and A & E admissions at the moment?
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Ghost wrote:Metalchemyst wrote:Or that most of the extra deaths were not caused by CoviD19.slayerslays wrote:That Coronavirus deaths weren't included in the second graph
Are you suggesting 6000 people suddenly just died in a week of something else when there's hardly any road traffic accidents and A & E admissions at the moment?
May not be to the scale of 6000 but given the laser focus on corona I can see lots of people with other diseases dying as a result of being unable to access care (cancer or dialysis being the main ones). I know people who've had vital medical procedures postponed that really cut it close to being too late be effective with fatal consequences. You just know those statistics will be brushed over though.
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But why would CVD19 deaths not be classed as deaths from a respiratory disease? The mainstream media said that about 40% of the extra deaths were not from the virus, so that could be an underestimate. We'll see what tomorrow's updates look like.Ghost wrote::lol: Yeah I'd say it's more likely that the covid 19 deaths just weren't included in the second graph. Are you suggesting 6000 people suddenly just died in a week of something else when there's hardly any road traffic accidents and A & E admissions at the moment?Metalchemyst wrote:Or that most of the extra deaths were not caused by CoviD19.slayerslays wrote:That Coronavirus deaths weren't included in the second graph
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Metalchemyst wrote:But why would CVD19 deaths not be classed as deaths from a respiratory disease? The mainstream media said that about 40% of the extra deaths were not from the virus, so that could be an underestimate. We'll see what tomorrow's updates look like.Ghost wrote::lol: Yeah I'd say it's more likely that the covid 19 deaths just weren't included in the second graph. Are you suggesting 6000 people suddenly just died in a week of something else when there's hardly any road traffic accidents and A & E admissions at the moment?Metalchemyst wrote:Or that most of the extra deaths were not caused by CoviD19.
According to the BBC last week had the highest mortality rate for 20 years. So 20 years ago what were people dying of? It certainly wasn't bloody Covid - 19. Why were the public not informed? Etc and so forth.
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ribbons69 wrote:According to the BBC last week had the highest mortality rate for 20 years. So 20 years ago what were people dying of? It certainly wasn't bloody Covid - 19. Why were the public not informed? Etc and so forth.
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It's all a big government ploy said this guy... until he died.
https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/21/anti-lockdown-protester-branded-covid-19-political-ploy-killed-coronavirus-12588467/?fbclid=IwAR36mOw8AWdNRhqtbGsJVhqUCZdQuxcey_awbxMkmox9x6NhMQpiHPgbae8
https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/21/anti-lockdown-protester-branded-covid-19-political-ploy-killed-coronavirus-12588467/?fbclid=IwAR36mOw8AWdNRhqtbGsJVhqUCZdQuxcey_awbxMkmox9x6NhMQpiHPgbae8
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I'm just pointing out unexplained facts. I'm not getting it from Breitbart:
https://www.newstatesman.com/science-te ... ined-extra
“The disparity was even larger last week,” emphasises Dr Jason Oke, senior statistician in the Oxford University Medical Statistics Group. “In the week ending 3 April, there were 6,000 excess deaths, and 3,000 to 4,000 were unexplained. That was particularly surprising.”
https://www.newstatesman.com/science-te ... ined-extra
“The disparity was even larger last week,” emphasises Dr Jason Oke, senior statistician in the Oxford University Medical Statistics Group. “In the week ending 3 April, there were 6,000 excess deaths, and 3,000 to 4,000 were unexplained. That was particularly surprising.”
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The government have stopped counting people who die 28 days after a positive test. So people that die on ventilators are no longer counted. Dodgy.
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Ghost wrote:The government have stopped counting people who die 28 days after a positive test. So people that die on ventilators are no longer counted. Dodgy.
Not like the tories to try and manipulate the figures to make themselves look good.
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gavdann wrote:It's all a big government ploy said this guy... until he died.
https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/21/anti-lockdown-protester-branded-covid-19-political-ploy-killed-coronavirus-12588467/?fbclid=IwAR36mOw8AWdNRhqtbGsJVhqUCZdQuxcey_awbxMkmox9x6NhMQpiHPgbae8
I would laugh at the irony but I worry about that my older brother is being taken in by conspiracy theories.
This reminds me, I should give him a call.
Speaking of which, anybody else notice how this whole pandemic has been making all our old friends come out of the woodwork?
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Bizza wrote:Ghost wrote:The government have stopped counting people who die 28 days after a positive test. So people that die on ventilators are no longer counted. Dodgy.
Not like the tories to try and manipulate the figures to make themselves look good.
Scotland has used the 28 day method from day 1.
88% of deaths occur within 28 days, 96% within 60 days of a positive test.
https://publichealthmatters.blog.gov.uk ... 19-deaths/
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Covid cases in UK are rising again, hope you all are safe
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As the number of tests plummets whilst access to tests is made harder and the reasons to test are taken away the case numbers figure is going to become meaningless anyway.