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Re: Last Gig/Next Gig Thread

Postby bloodofthekings » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:12 pm

Last gig - Hard Rock Hell at Vauxhall Holiday Park in Great Yarmouth (no comment on the on-site accommodation as we stayed off-site at a local BnB)

Dear oh dear. I know the change of venue was forced on them without a large amount of notice but fuck me what an absolute shit-show this turned out to be. First off, the sound was fine and of the bands we saw ('saw' being a rather loose term but more on that in a mo) I really enjoyed Those Damn Crows, Diamond Head and Doro, all of whom were great. Praying Mantis were ok but nothing special, Michael Monroe put in a good performance but I was never a big Hanoi Rocks fan so his long set left me a bit bored about half-way through and Zodiac Mindwarp were fucking awful.

But - the bigger issue is the new venue. The main room is a fraction of the size of the old one in Wales with a rather low ceiling, which meant the stage couldn't be raised any further which left a lot of folk struggling to see anything. But the main problem was the VIP & Royalty areas essentially being several rows of seating directly in front of the stage, thus creating a 'golden circle' effect which left everyone else trapped behind a second barrier, unable to get anywhere near the stage.

The problem is that part of what VIP & Royalty pay for is a separate seated section from where they can still see the stage which in Wales is what they got. The issue in this new venue is that there wasn't enough room to accommodate that so they put them directly in front of the stage, thus creating this second barrier which all other customers were effectively stuck behind. Absolutely woeful planning and very ill thought-out as all non-VIP/Royalty customers were pissed off and tbh, plenty of the VIP & Royalty lot were too as all the oldies that are used to being able to see from their seats suddenly couldn't because plenty of those still stood up any way.

When you add in nearly every band we watched also mentioning that they didn't like that setup either it basically ended up being an absolute cock up that pleased nobody.

Another knock-on effect of this which I noticed is that a lot of the standard customers were in a heightened state of annoyance at not being able to see the stage - this led to the more twattish element of the crowd taking this out on people like me because I happen to be taller than average (6"5) - on 3 separate occasions over 2 days (and given that we only watched 6 bands that's a high ratio), people were pestering me to move and trying to make me feel bad for 'blocking their view' (one of these occasions turned into outright abuse).
Now, I should clarify that on each of these occasions, I didn't surge forward right before the band came on - every single time I was either stood in the same spot for a long time (over an hour) or I was returning from the bar/toilet back to where I was originally stood (next to my wife I might add) but to a few particular cunts this obviously made no difference. I have no problem standing towards the back if I'm late in to a gig so as to not to move forward and block the view of folk that have been in the room for a while but if I've been stood in a particular spot for a long time, don't fucking come tap me on the shoulder and try and pressure me to move just because you couldn't be arsed getting in the room early enough - people who do that really piss me off.

All in all, we will definitely not be going back to any of the HRH events at this venue.

Next gig - Ghost @ Leeds Arena.

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Re: Last Gig/Next Gig Thread

Postby Jay1993 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:41 am

bloodofthekings wrote:Last gig - Hard Rock Hell at Vauxhall Holiday Park in Great Yarmouth (no comment on the on-site accommodation as we stayed off-site at a local BnB)

Dear oh dear. I know the change of venue was forced on them without a large amount of notice but fuck me what an absolute shit-show this turned out to be. First off, the sound was fine and of the bands we saw ('saw' being a rather loose term but more on that in a mo) I really enjoyed Those Damn Crows, Diamond Head and Doro, all of whom were great. Praying Mantis were ok but nothing special, Michael Monroe put in a good performance but I was never a big Hanoi Rocks fan so his long set left me a bit bored about half-way through and Zodiac Mindwarp were fucking awful.

But - the bigger issue is the new venue. The main room is a fraction of the size of the old one in Wales with a rather low ceiling, which meant the stage couldn't be raised any further which left a lot of folk struggling to see anything. But the main problem was the VIP & Royalty areas essentially being several rows of seating directly in front of the stage, thus creating a 'golden circle' effect which left everyone else trapped behind a second barrier, unable to get anywhere near the stage.

The problem is that part of what VIP & Royalty pay for is a separate seated section from where they can still see the stage which in Wales is what they got. The issue in this new venue is that there wasn't enough room to accommodate that so they put them directly in front of the stage, thus creating this second barrier which all other customers were effectively stuck behind. Absolutely woeful planning and very ill thought-out as all non-VIP/Royalty customers were pissed off and tbh, plenty of the VIP & Royalty lot were too as all the oldies that are used to being able to see from their seats suddenly couldn't because plenty of those still stood up any way.

When you add in nearly every band we watched also mentioning that they didn't like that setup either it basically ended up being an absolute cock up that pleased nobody.

Another knock-on effect of this which I noticed is that a lot of the standard customers were in a heightened state of annoyance at not being able to see the stage - this led to the more twattish element of the crowd taking this out on people like me because I happen to be taller than average (6"5) - on 3 separate occasions over 2 days (and given that we only watched 6 bands that's a high ratio), people were pestering me to move and trying to make me feel bad for 'blocking their view' (one of these occasions turned into outright abuse).
Now, I should clarify that on each of these occasions, I didn't surge forward right before the band came on - every single time I was either stood in the same spot for a long time (over an hour) or I was returning from the bar/toilet back to where I was originally stood (next to my wife I might add) but to a few particular cunts this obviously made no difference. I have no problem standing towards the back if I'm late in to a gig so as to not to move forward and block the view of folk that have been in the room for a while but if I've been stood in a particular spot for a long time, don't fucking come tap me on the shoulder and try and pressure me to move just because you couldn't be arsed getting in the room early enough - people who do that really piss me off.

All in all, we will definitely not be going back to any of the HRH events at this venue.

Next gig - Ghost @ Leeds Arena.


That's a shame to hear. :( I've got tickets for HRH sleaze and Hammerfest there next March as it's right on my doorstep. Hopefully, they'll sort these issues out before then as it will feel weird moshing to Napalm Death far away from the stage!

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Re: Last Gig/Next Gig Thread

Postby bloodofthekings » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:54 am

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bloodofthekings wrote:Last gig - Hard Rock Hell at Vauxhall Holiday Park in Great Yarmouth (no comment on the on-site accommodation as we stayed off-site at a local BnB)

Dear oh dear. I know the change of venue was forced on them without a large amount of notice but fuck me what an absolute shit-show this turned out to be. First off, the sound was fine and of the bands we saw ('saw' being a rather loose term but more on that in a mo) I really enjoyed Those Damn Crows, Diamond Head and Doro, all of whom were great. Praying Mantis were ok but nothing special, Michael Monroe put in a good performance but I was never a big Hanoi Rocks fan so his long set left me a bit bored about half-way through and Zodiac Mindwarp were fucking awful.

But - the bigger issue is the new venue. The main room is a fraction of the size of the old one in Wales with a rather low ceiling, which meant the stage couldn't be raised any further which left a lot of folk struggling to see anything. But the main problem was the VIP & Royalty areas essentially being several rows of seating directly in front of the stage, thus creating a 'golden circle' effect which left everyone else trapped behind a second barrier, unable to get anywhere near the stage.

The problem is that part of what VIP & Royalty pay for is a separate seated section from where they can still see the stage which in Wales is what they got. The issue in this new venue is that there wasn't enough room to accommodate that so they put them directly in front of the stage, thus creating this second barrier which all other customers were effectively stuck behind. Absolutely woeful planning and very ill thought-out as all non-VIP/Royalty customers were pissed off and tbh, plenty of the VIP & Royalty lot were too as all the oldies that are used to being able to see from their seats suddenly couldn't because plenty of those still stood up any way.

When you add in nearly every band we watched also mentioning that they didn't like that setup either it basically ended up being an absolute cock up that pleased nobody.

Another knock-on effect of this which I noticed is that a lot of the standard customers were in a heightened state of annoyance at not being able to see the stage - this led to the more twattish element of the crowd taking this out on people like me because I happen to be taller than average (6"5) - on 3 separate occasions over 2 days (and given that we only watched 6 bands that's a high ratio), people were pestering me to move and trying to make me feel bad for 'blocking their view' (one of these occasions turned into outright abuse).
Now, I should clarify that on each of these occasions, I didn't surge forward right before the band came on - every single time I was either stood in the same spot for a long time (over an hour) or I was returning from the bar/toilet back to where I was originally stood (next to my wife I might add) but to a few particular cunts this obviously made no difference. I have no problem standing towards the back if I'm late in to a gig so as to not to move forward and block the view of folk that have been in the room for a while but if I've been stood in a particular spot for a long time, don't fucking come tap me on the shoulder and try and pressure me to move just because you couldn't be arsed getting in the room early enough - people who do that really piss me off.

All in all, we will definitely not be going back to any of the HRH events at this venue.

Next gig - Ghost @ Leeds Arena.


That's a shame to hear. :( I've got tickets for HRH sleaze and Hammerfest there next March as it's right on my doorstep. Hopefully, they'll sort these issues out before then as it will feel weird moshing to Napalm Death far away from the stage!


Do you mean HRH AOR? Hammerfest is there but HRH Sleaze is in Sheffield

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Re: Last Gig/Next Gig Thread

Postby Jay1993 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:28 pm

bloodofthekings wrote:
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bloodofthekings wrote:Last gig - Hard Rock Hell at Vauxhall Holiday Park in Great Yarmouth (no comment on the on-site accommodation as we stayed off-site at a local BnB)

Dear oh dear. I know the change of venue was forced on them without a large amount of notice but fuck me what an absolute shit-show this turned out to be. First off, the sound was fine and of the bands we saw ('saw' being a rather loose term but more on that in a mo) I really enjoyed Those Damn Crows, Diamond Head and Doro, all of whom were great. Praying Mantis were ok but nothing special, Michael Monroe put in a good performance but I was never a big Hanoi Rocks fan so his long set left me a bit bored about half-way through and Zodiac Mindwarp were fucking awful.

But - the bigger issue is the new venue. The main room is a fraction of the size of the old one in Wales with a rather low ceiling, which meant the stage couldn't be raised any further which left a lot of folk struggling to see anything. But the main problem was the VIP & Royalty areas essentially being several rows of seating directly in front of the stage, thus creating a 'golden circle' effect which left everyone else trapped behind a second barrier, unable to get anywhere near the stage.

The problem is that part of what VIP & Royalty pay for is a separate seated section from where they can still see the stage which in Wales is what they got. The issue in this new venue is that there wasn't enough room to accommodate that so they put them directly in front of the stage, thus creating this second barrier which all other customers were effectively stuck behind. Absolutely woeful planning and very ill thought-out as all non-VIP/Royalty customers were pissed off and tbh, plenty of the VIP & Royalty lot were too as all the oldies that are used to being able to see from their seats suddenly couldn't because plenty of those still stood up any way.

When you add in nearly every band we watched also mentioning that they didn't like that setup either it basically ended up being an absolute cock up that pleased nobody.

Another knock-on effect of this which I noticed is that a lot of the standard customers were in a heightened state of annoyance at not being able to see the stage - this led to the more twattish element of the crowd taking this out on people like me because I happen to be taller than average (6"5) - on 3 separate occasions over 2 days (and given that we only watched 6 bands that's a high ratio), people were pestering me to move and trying to make me feel bad for 'blocking their view' (one of these occasions turned into outright abuse).
Now, I should clarify that on each of these occasions, I didn't surge forward right before the band came on - every single time I was either stood in the same spot for a long time (over an hour) or I was returning from the bar/toilet back to where I was originally stood (next to my wife I might add) but to a few particular cunts this obviously made no difference. I have no problem standing towards the back if I'm late in to a gig so as to not to move forward and block the view of folk that have been in the room for a while but if I've been stood in a particular spot for a long time, don't fucking come tap me on the shoulder and try and pressure me to move just because you couldn't be arsed getting in the room early enough - people who do that really piss me off.

All in all, we will definitely not be going back to any of the HRH events at this venue.

Next gig - Ghost @ Leeds Arena.


That's a shame to hear. :( I've got tickets for HRH sleaze and Hammerfest there next March as it's right on my doorstep. Hopefully, they'll sort these issues out before then as it will feel weird moshing to Napalm Death far away from the stage!


Do you mean HRH AOR? Hammerfest is there but HRH Sleaze is in Sheffield


Yeah HRH AOR, my bad! Seen a lot of comments on their Facebook page from people complaining about the set up so hopefully they'll take these on board and make some changes for next year...

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Re: Last Gig/Next Gig Thread

Postby bloodofthekings » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:34 pm

Jay1993 wrote:
bloodofthekings wrote:
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That's a shame to hear. :( I've got tickets for HRH sleaze and Hammerfest there next March as it's right on my doorstep. Hopefully, they'll sort these issues out before then as it will feel weird moshing to Napalm Death far away from the stage!


Do you mean HRH AOR? Hammerfest is there but HRH Sleaze is in Sheffield


Yeah HRH AOR, my bad! Seen a lot of comments on their Facebook page from people complaining about the set up so hopefully they'll take these on board and make some changes for next year...


I'd be surprised if they did - they've proven time and again that they only care about their VIP & Royalty customers and couldn't give a toss about the rest.

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Re: Last Gig/Next Gig Thread

Postby gazsetsfire » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:14 pm

Last - Lacuna Coil and Eluveitie on Saturday night.

Packed out forum, nice to see Eluveitie get pretty much an hour despite having to step into the support role to U.K. shows. Thought lacuna coil were great too, been a while since saw them last, loved Delirium and new album is decent too. Hopefully Dimmu at same venue in January isn’t quite as full.

Next - the double header of sacred reich at the underworld with Amon Amarth in Birmingham the next night.

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Postby someone else » Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:19 pm

Last - Iggy Pop last night. Recent album was a more toned down, jazz influenced affair and the gig reflected that, being in posh confined of the Barbican as part of their Jazzfest. Starting at 8 with no support, most of the first set was from the new album, with a great band a few nods to the older material, and a rip through Stooges Death Trip, complete with trumpet solo! Then after 40mins, he said good night and lead the band off, which was leading to a gig breaking ZZ Tops 'most paid for shortest set' record - fortunately the second set was longer, but relied on obscure album cuts rather than Lust For Life etc, with Nightclubbing being the closest to a 'hit' due to Trainspotting. Iggy remains one of the most likeable frontmen, and this was a toned down gig - he wandered into the crowd but nowhere near as feral as before - his limp is much more noticeable, and his shirt stayed on for the duration!

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Re: Last Gig/Next Gig Thread

Postby Ghost » Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:33 pm

Last: Ghost - Wembley. All three bands were great and I'd like to see Tribulation and All Them Witches at their own gigs. Only slight complaints are All Them Witches might get to play more songs if they didn't add 3 minute jam at the end of each song :lol:
Also ghost have too many instrumental and jokey guitar bits for my liking. Just play your songs. I think the previous incantation of the singer was a lot funnier.

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Re: Last Gig/Next Gig Thread

Postby gavdann » Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:56 am

Ghost wrote:Last: Ghost - Wembley. All three bands were great and I'd like to see Tribulation and All Them Witches at their own gigs. Only slight complaints are All Them Witches might get to play more songs if they didn't add 3 minute jam at the end of each song :lol:
Also ghost have too many instrumental and jokey guitar bits for my liking. Just play your songs. I think the previous incantation of the singer was a lot funnier.

Next: Sacred Reich in London on Wednesday. Woohoo.

I agree about there being too much chat, not so much about the instrumentals. Miasma is arguably the best track on Prequelle. It was good but nowhere near as good as RAH as they cut so many of the good, old tunes. It was great to hear Zombie Queen though.

Tribulation and ATW were good but I actually thought their freakouts were the best bits. All their songs started and ended great but the vocal parts were a bit meh.

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Re: Last Gig/Next Gig Thread

Postby Ghost » Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:31 am

gavdann wrote:I agree about there being too much chat, not so much about the instrumentals. Miasma is arguably the best track on Prequelle. It was good but nowhere near as good as RAH as they cut so many of the good, old tunes. It was great to hear Zombie Queen though.

Tribulation and ATW were good but I actually thought their freakouts were the best bits. All their songs started and ended great but the vocal parts were a bit meh.

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I find All Them Witches quite hypnotic to watch. Tribulation have a cool image.

Yeah I was disappointed they no longer finish with Monstrance Clock.
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Re: Last Gig/Next Gig Thread

Postby gavdann » Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:40 am

Did you get to the barrier? It took me ages to get there but I arrived bang on 6.30. I was about 10 from the front LHS for Trib but then wanted a beer so stood slightly further back on RHS for the rest and the sound was much better.

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Re: Last Gig/Next Gig Thread

Postby Ghost » Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:53 am

gavdann wrote:Did you get to the barrier? It took me ages to get there but I arrived bang on 6.30. I was about 10 from the front LHS for Trib but then wanted a beer so stood slightly further back on RHS for the rest and the sound was much better.


Yeah I queued from 5.30. It was quite easy to get near the front for ghost because they weren't stopping you walking down the edges like they did last time I was there. I don't think it was sold out so don't know why they stopped selling tickets early on. Sound was great for me but I had ear plugs in.
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Re: Last Gig/Next Gig Thread

Postby Jay1993 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:53 pm

My last gig was also Ghost/All Them Witches/Tribulation but in Nottingham. Got in early for Tribulation although they didn't start until 7pm. Thought they were excellent! Watched a bit of ATW then headed to the bar to catch up with a mate so can't really judge them fairly. Sounded very proggy/stonery to me and certainly made the overall lineup more diverse!

Ghost were basically flawless as expected. I've not seen them since Bloodstock 2017 so it was great to finally hear the new stuff live along with unexpected cuts like Spirit and Satan Prayer. Although I do prefer the earlier incarnations of Papa, it's clear that Tobias has gained a lot more confidence as the Cardinal and can use the extra stage space that comes with arena shows effectively. My only complaint is that I'm short so my view in arenas is usually pretty rubbish, hence the only other arena show I've been to is Iron Maiden on the Final Frontier tour. I felt sorrier for the dude that was even shorter than me stood next to me though :lol:

All in all a great gig, but kinda bittersweet that we probably won't ever see Ghost in smaller venues anymore!

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Re: Last Gig/Next Gig Thread

Postby bloodofthekings » Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:37 am

Last gig - Ghost @ Leeds Arena last night. Left my full review in the Gigs, Tours amd Festivals section but suffice to say I came away rather disappointed.

Next gig - Battle Beast @ Manchester Club Academy

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Re: Last Gig/Next Gig Thread

Postby Jay1993 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:41 am

Forgot to add my next gig. :lol: Thinking of doing Uriah Heep and Diamond Head at Norwich UEA early December. :)