The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

[someone else]

The housing thing again, it's the right thing to say but it'd cost a fair amount of money to repair and rebuild rather than demolish and start again sometimes.

In Liverpool they are demolishing lovely buildings that with a few quid could be made into good quality family homes. They keep on promising that they will replace them with modern homes but haven't got the funding to do so. So they leave large areas looking like a bombsite bigger than even the Luftwaffe could achieve. The more expensive modern homes they have built over the last few years are now dilapidated hovels full of immigrants, which should be knocked down as they are crap (technical term).

I can understand getting rid of the poorer quality buildings particularly around the football grounds. But some of the ones getting knocked down are still very good structurally and with a little TLC would last for decades. Some of which would go for over a million if they were in London. I'm mainly talking about 3 or 4 bedroomed houses which are needed, especially when the city is crying out family homes. What do they build? One bedroom flats. Of which there are loads already built lying empty.

The other reason being that developers buy many plots of land and leave some derelict to push the value of other sites up - building on these sites pushes prices down. Labour's Pathfinder scheme didn't help.

[houston4044]

Oh and i forgot to add

Find a way to get rid of career politicians as they create distance and disinterest in the electorate.

There are no inspiring politicians at the moment, Nick Clegg came close around the television debates but then fizzled, Nigel Farage comes close but i can see his appeal being limited and the only thing Milliband will inspire is a coma

[Gandalf the Red]

Oh and i forgot to add

Find a way to get rid of career politicians as they create distance and disinterest in the electorate.

There are no inspiring politicians at the moment, Nick Clegg came close around the television debates but then fizzled, Nigel Farage comes close but i can see his appeal being limited and the only thing Milliband will inspire is a coma

*cough* Boris.

[MetalBeast]

I reckon if Labour win in 2015, we'll end up with Boris in charge next time. That prospect is both hilarious and terrifying at the same time.

[herzeleid]

Boris is hilarious until you actually find out about his politics.

[houston4044]

Oh and i forgot to add

Find a way to get rid of career politicians as they create distance and disinterest in the electorate.

There are no inspiring politicians at the moment, Nick Clegg came close around the television debates but then fizzled, Nigel Farage comes close but i can see his appeal being limited and the only thing Milliband will inspire is a coma

*cough* Boris.

Doesn't really inspire, he's just someone who guffaws his way to popularity and seems to favour cyclists and shuts down Underground stations.

[keera_envenomed]

Boris is hilarious until you actually find out about his politics.

So much this.

[Jim]

Boris is hilarious until you actually find out about his politics.

So much this.

He's a fucking lunatic: http://www.lbc.co.uk/boris-johnson-wher ... tand-95140

Also: to home the rest of the UK outside of the M25 is a foreign country. He probably takes his passport when he visits other cities.

[MetalBeast]

Boris is hilarious until you actually find out about his politics.

So much this.

He's a fucking lunatic: http://www.lbc.co.uk/boris-johnson-wher ... tand-95140

Also: to home the rest of the UK outside of the M25 is a foreign country. He probably takes his passport when he visits other cities.

Boris becoming PM would be a disaster for everyone apart from Boris and Ian Hislop.

[houston4044]

Can you imagine Boris representing us at the UN? It'd be funny but embarrassing as hell, I imagine it would be how American's felt when Bush was in charge

[Metalchemyst]

Oh and i forgot to add

Find a way to get rid of career politicians as they create distance and disinterest in the electorate.

The system attracts people of high ambition and mediocre morality. Reducing pay and perks and severly restricting lobbying from big business would help to remedy that, along with more direct democracy. But can our system ever be changed from within or would it take a revolution of some sort?

[houston4044]

Oh and i forgot to add

Find a way to get rid of career politicians as they create distance and disinterest in the electorate.

The system attracts people of high ambition and mediocre morality. Reducing pay and perks and severly restricting lobbying from big business would help to remedy that, along with more direct democracy. But can our system ever be changed from within or would it take a revolution of some sort?

I was actually thinking about that earlier I think the only other way it would change is if somehow a non-career politician became really popular with no skeletons in the closet (one can dream) and so forced change. But as the Scotland issue has shown, Westminster will find a way to accommodate/stifle change so it can cling to what suits itself.

The problem with a revolution is that it would only alter things in the short term and would eventually work it's way back to what we have now, the USSR being the prime example; going from Lenin to Chernenko in 60 years.

[MetalBeast]

The system attracts people of high ambition and mediocre morality. Reducing pay and perks and severly restricting lobbying from big business would help to remedy that, along with more direct democracy.

It makes me really angry that the last attempt to restrict such lobbying resulted in the "gagging bill", which affected charities and unions...but barely touched lobbying by big business.

[SlayerSlay]

Scottish people are unpredictable and savage so imagining them with any power is quite frightening! I really hope they never get let of their leashes and us English spend more time trying to tame them so the streets of the United Kingdom become safer.

Yeah because when Scotland were used as a trial for the poll tax a year before the rest of the so called Union we had to put up and shut up. Then when it was rolled out in the rest of the UK the English rioted, yeash your so civilised right enough!!!!!!!

[Gandalf the Red]

Scottish people are unpredictable and savage so imagining them with any power is quite frightening! I really hope they never get let of their leashes and us English spend more time trying to tame them so the streets of the United Kingdom become safer.

Yeah because when Scotland were used as a trial for the poll tax a year before the rest of the so called Union we had to put up and shut up. Then when it was rolled out in the rest of the UK the English rioted, yeash your so civilised right enough!!!!!!!

The Scottish did riot. But they didn't cause any damage as everywhere was fucked already.