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Re: movies

Postby Johnny Tightlips » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:59 am

Applecore wrote:If the Alien has a home planet, I can imagine that being a very short film :lol:
But I took from Prometheus that the Alien was a sort-of bio-weapon the big white dudes were making.

But then that fucks with the AvP timeline, where (iirc) it was decided that the Predator created the Alien to fight as a right of passage.


Unless AvP2 explains more (I haven't seen it), I seem to recall that in AvP it was implied that Predator captured a Queen, not created it...though I could be wrong.

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Postby jamestomo » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:01 am

I made that exact point to my Dad last night, because as it seems from Prometheus, the Aliens are evolving and as you saw at the end the alien that pops out is almost a full alien.
In which case, yeah it makes the AvP films not work as it was pointed out in them that the predators would hunt the aliens for fun many years ago

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Postby Applecore » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:04 am

Though, if those urns are on all of the ships, and the ships have been there for 2000+ years - who's to say a ship didn't get off the planet? Could've come across the Predators, who fought the Alien on it and won, capturing the queen..?
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Postby jamestomo » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:18 am

Haha, yeah valid point.
I guess we could both be right.

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Postby Applecore » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:26 am

I think they've made it ambiguous on purpose. Then when the next film happens we won't know what it'll show.
Though the AvP links could be coincidental, as I don't think the original writers, etc had too much input on those two..
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Postby Jobdone » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:30 am

Wait, people realise AvP movies are like the least canon things ever, right?
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Postby Applecore » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:38 am

Yeah, I just like to see how things tie-in with each other.

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Postby Soze » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:45 am

A franchise that has had so many films written by so many people is always going to contradict itself. Making a prequel muddles things even more as I very much doubt Ridley Scott gave the origins of the alien any thought at all whilst making the original film 30 odd years ago.

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Postby Turbo » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:05 am

Im going to watch Prometheus tonight. Need to cheer myself up from constantly being reminded that its Hellfest this weekend.

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Postby Turbo » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:40 pm

My mind is full of fuck.

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Re: movies

Postby Metalchemyst » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:00 am

Anyone seen Snow White and the Huntsman?
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Re: movies

Postby Luke_X » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:41 am

Just seen the official first trailer for the next resident evil film and its plot outline

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Postby Darkweasel » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:48 am

Care to elaborate?
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Postby angel_of_death » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:13 pm

I think people are giving Ridley Scott too much credit with a lot of these things. He didn't create Alien...he didn't write Alien...in fact as far as I can tell looking at IMDB he has nothing to do with the Alien franchise except directing the first movie.
The only two people who've been involved since the start are the writers Ronald Shusett and Dan O'Bannon, both of whom were involved in the AvP films and neither of whom were involved in Prometheus, O'Bannon because he's dead and Shusett presumably either wasn't asked or wasn't interested.

I agree with what has been said elsewhere in this thread and thought Prometheus had a confused and contradictory plot. It lacked tension. It lacked characterisation. It lacked a decent screenplay, placing characters in ridiculous situations and suffered from terrible dialogue delivered by badly.
Plus points, the cinematography was beautiful, the CGI was really good for a change, and Fassbender was great. I personally wouldn't watch it again.
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Re: movies

Postby Luke_X » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:13 pm

Darkweasel wrote:Care to elaborate?


Well the plot description, which isn't the most detailed of things, implies that the first 4 films were all made up (computer generated) and implanted into Alice.

The new trailer backs this up big time. Just seems like such a waste of time and money to make 4 films if your only going to go and say they didn't exist. Plus its full of more slow motion 3d garbage.