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How will you vote in the 2019 UK General Election?

Conservative
1
6%
Labour
7
41%
Liberal Democrat
4
24%
SNP
0
No votes
Brexit
1
6%
Green
2
12%
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Other
0
No votes
Won't Vote
2
12%
 
Total votes: 17

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Re: Scottish Independence thread

Postby Metalchemyst » Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:11 am

If Scotland gets independence I'd like to give them a parting gift of 500,000 recent immigrants. It would boost their economy and give an added blessing of increasing cultural diversity. Scotland is so white it's ridiculous.
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Re: Scottish Independence thread

Postby Matty_the_Emo_Slayer » Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:38 am

Scotland has loads of immigrants its just that the blacks there have been turned pasty and ginger by the harsh winds and lack of sun... :eyes:
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Re: Scottish Independence thread

Postby Killing_time » Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:22 pm

Scottish people should learn to talk without spitting before getting independence.
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Re: Scottish Independence thread

Postby CrappyMike » Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:59 pm

You should learn to troll better.

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Re: Scottish Independence thread

Postby Matty_the_Emo_Slayer » Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:59 pm

Killing_time wrote:Scottish people should learn to talk without spitting before getting independence.


that's the Welsh you're thinking of
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Re: Scottish Independence thread

Postby Smerphy » Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:04 pm

Matty_the_Emo_Slayer wrote:Do many illegals get into the UK via Scotland? Never heard much about it.


For all the talk of BBC bias this Kevin Bridges show tonight has been pretty balanced.


It was good and quite balanced.

Kevin did say his Yes supporting friends all had their parts edited though.
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Re: Scottish Independence thread

Postby MetalBeast » Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:37 pm

Keep hearing about this Devo Max option the Scots will get if they vote no, even though David Cameron previously insisted that including it as an option on the ballot paper - alongside full independence and maintaining the Status Quo* - wasn't an option.

I'm guessing it's something like this, but louder and performed by The Proclaimers.

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Re: Scottish Independence thread

Postby Gandalf the Red » Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:49 pm

Apparently they don't want Devo Max as they prefer Irn Bru to Pepsi.
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Re: Scottish Independence thread

Postby Nichrome » Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:32 am

Gandalf the Red wrote:I hope the Scots realise that if the Yes vote wins then they'll have to put up with more of Salmond and Sturgeon.


Exactly - this is the thing that does it for me. Every argument I've seen for the 'Yes' people is "We'll have our own government - we hate everyone in Westminster". Everyone hates their government, as soon as Scotland go independent, they'll be complaining 24/7 about whoever is in Holyrood rather than who is in Westminster. Nothing will change. Scotland will not transform in to some socialist utopia overnight. No sane person would take the monumental economic risk. The whole thing reeks of small minded nationalism.

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Re: Scottish Independence thread

Postby ribbons69 » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:32 am

Matty_the_Emo_Slayer wrote:
Killing_time wrote:Scottish people should learn to talk without spitting before getting independence.


that's the Welsh you're thinking of



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Re: Scottish Independence thread

Postby WorMzy » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:35 am

Nichrome wrote:
Gandalf the Red wrote:I hope the Scots realise that if the Yes vote wins then they'll have to put up with more of Salmond and Sturgeon.


Exactly - this is the thing that does it for me. Every argument I've seen for the 'Yes' people is "We'll have our own government - we hate everyone in Westminster". Everyone hates their government, as soon as Scotland go independent, they'll be complaining 24/7 about whoever is in Holyrood rather than who is in Westminster.


Of course, but better the lying cheating bastard that you know and all that.

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Re: Scottish Independence thread

Postby MetalBeast » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:00 pm

I think they should have had Devo Max as an option and had a voting slip with just three pictures on it with tick boxes by them (no words), the pictures being:

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Re: Scottish Independence thread

Postby Matty_the_Emo_Slayer » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:03 pm

Nichrome wrote:Scotland will not transform in to some socialist utopia overnight.


Of course it won't, but it'll be easier to achieve change in a Scottish parliament rather than in Westminster which will always be dominated by people intent on representing only one class of people from one part of the country. The vote isn't for change, its for reforming the system to make change actually possible.
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Re: Scottish Independence thread

Postby GTFCMike » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:17 pm

Gandalf the Red wrote:I hope the Scots realise that if the Yes vote wins then they'll have to put up with more of Salmond and Sturgeon

....... and less of the likes of Camoron, Cleggy the turncoat clown and the Ed Miller Band. No one policy Nigel too, as an added bonus.
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Re: Scottish Independence thread

Postby CrappyMike » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:23 pm

Salmond and sturgeon are just as bad, if not worse. They are just slimy shitheads, wonder what they'll say when they don't get the result they want. Yes I said when, not if.