The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

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How will you vote in the 2019 UK General Election?

Conservative
1
6%
Labour
6
38%
Liberal Democrat
4
25%
SNP
0
No votes
Brexit
1
6%
Green
2
13%
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Other
0
No votes
Won't Vote
2
13%
 
Total votes: 16

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby houston4044 » Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:58 pm

Matty_the_Emo_Slayer wrote:Anyone get any good slabbering in at the campaigners of a party they hate outside the polling station? I couldn't resist myself.

"Hi, can I give you a leaflet for Alex Easton (DUP)?"

"No thanks, I've plenty of toilet paper in the house already."


Did have one about a week ago, Tory and Green campaigners were handing out flyers in the middle of the village where I live, the Tory one snuck up on me and gave me one (I wasn't really watching what I was doing so forgot to give him a wide berth) and told me to "do the right thing". I took it and put it in the recycling bin and went over to the Green campaigner and took one of theirs to rub it in :P

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Matty_the_Emo_Slayer » Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:06 pm

Next election I'm going to come up with a whole list of put downs and then tour all the polling stations in town recording them all.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby NeglectedField » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:03 pm

Possible hung parliament, some sources are saying, based on exit poll.

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby VizardAmata » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:04 pm

It's looking like it. Tbh that was what I expected if the Conservatives didn't win, I held out very little hope for a Labour majority.

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Jobdone » Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:40 am

Looks like survation we fairly spot on again. Fuck knows what model they're using but it's good.

And hahahaha holy fuck Theresa. How do you fuck up a 20 point lead.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Haldamir319 » Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:10 am

It is looking like the DUP are going to prop May up.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Matty_the_Emo_Slayer » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:58 pm

If May has to give them a ministerial post for their 10 seats then let's hope it's not health, culture, environment or energy. They'll fuck up anything they touch but those are the departments you especially don't want fundamentalist christians running.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Bizza » Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:59 pm

Tories throwing in with that lot after all the shit that got thrown at Corbyn for his supposed terrorist links. Fucking hypocrites. Can't wait to see how the Daily Mail spin this.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby houston4044 » Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:16 pm

May has really got to stop banging on about stability, it was laughable before but now it's just ridiculous.

One brightside of all this that hopefully a fox hunting vote is off the table now.

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Soze » Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:49 pm

I would like to congratulate Theresa May on a quite remarkable achievement. I hate her today more than I did yesterday and before. Really didn't think that was possible!!

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby VizardAmata » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:33 pm

DUP in power... what a fucking nightmare. The thought of what May has promised those loonies is quite frightening.

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Haldamir319 » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:36 pm

How long do we give this 'agreement' between the Tories and DUP?
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Matty_the_Emo_Slayer » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:59 pm

Probably quite a while, the DUP have backed nearly every decision that the Conservatives have made over the last few years anyway, particularly as concerns austerity. They are also fully behind a hard brexit thanks to some tactical large party donations, and are even more corrupt (look up the DUP's renewable heating incentive scandal to see what I mean.) They're a match made in hell.

Where it may fall down is if the DUP demand a return to direct rule for Northern Ireland. Since the assembly election a few months ago Sinn Fein are only one seat behind DUP as the largest party, and they no longer have then numbers required to veto legislation on gay marriage etc. So since the election they've been intentionally dragging their feet and sabotaging the negotiations intended to get the assembly back to work, in the hope that devolution will end and we will be returned to direct rule from Whitehall.

The only thing is, under direct rule the courts would eventually have to rule that women in NI must have the same access to abortion as in England and Wales, gay marriage would available here etc. Not at all what the DUP want to happen.

So the way I see it the DUP's support will probably be stringent on having the Tories allowing them to continue keeping Northern Ireland as their own personal fiefdom separate from the law of the land in the UK, yet suspending the assembly so as to not allow Sinn Fein and the other parties to democratically overrule them.

This exposes the biggest irony of modern unionism: the claim of loyalty to Britain and soon it seems to be part of their government, but also the desire to be exempt from those pesky modern British laws like equal rights. So while the DUP are going into this probably thinking that they can coax the Tories into rolling back on gay marriage and restricting abortion etc. the opposite will probably be true. The weight of public opinion against the DUP's backwardness will hopefully force Northern Ireland into line legally with the rest of the UK, into the 20th century.

Interesting times ahead anyway.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Gandalf the Red » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:59 pm

Who has suddenly voted labour on the forum after the election?


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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby VizardAmata » Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:06 am

Matty_the_Emo_Slayer wrote:Probably quite a while, the DUP have backed nearly every decision that the Conservatives have made over the last few years anyway, particularly as concerns austerity. They are also fully behind a hard brexit thanks to some tactical large party donations, and are even more corrupt (look up the DUP's renewable heating incentive scandal to see what I mean.) They're a match made in hell.

Where it may fall down is if the DUP demand a return to direct rule for Northern Ireland. Since the assembly election a few months ago Sinn Fein are only one seat behind DUP as the largest party, and they no longer have then numbers required to veto legislation on gay marriage etc. So since the election they've been intentionally dragging their feet and sabotaging the negotiations intended to get the assembly back to work, in the hope that devolution will end and we will be returned to direct rule from Whitehall.

The only thing is, under direct rule the courts would eventually have to rule that women in NI must have the same access to abortion as in England and Wales, gay marriage would available here etc. Not at all what the DUP want to happen.

So the way I see it the DUP's support will probably be stringent on having the Tories allowing them to continue keeping Northern Ireland as their own personal fiefdom separate from the law of the land in the UK, yet suspending the assembly so as to not allow Sinn Fein and the other parties to democratically overrule them.

This exposes the biggest irony of modern unionism: the claim of loyalty to Britain and soon it seems to be part of their government, but also the desire to be exempt from those pesky modern British laws like equal rights. So while the DUP are going into this probably thinking that they can coax the Tories into rolling back on gay marriage and restricting abortion etc. the opposite will probably be true. The weight of public opinion against the DUP's backwardness will hopefully force Northern Ireland into line legally with the rest of the UK, into the 20th century.

Interesting times ahead anyway.


I hope you're right. I am genuinely afraid of the DUP sending this country back into the dark ages.