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How will you vote in the 2019 UK General Election?

Conservative
1
6%
Labour
7
41%
Liberal Democrat
4
24%
SNP
0
No votes
Brexit
1
6%
Green
2
12%
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Other
0
No votes
Won't Vote
2
12%
 
Total votes: 17

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby houston4044 » Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:47 am

I can see the Tories getting past the Queen's speech but the only way I can see May hanging on throughout Brexit is if the EU offer us a terrible deal and she's made the scapegoat for getting a bad deal.

As for Labour, they'd have to call another election as well if they were to somehow come to power in this Parliament. They would be so ineffective we'd have a zombie Parliament.

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Metalchemyst » Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:06 pm

Matty_the_Emo_Slayer wrote:Here's some handy flashcards/Top Trumps for those who want to acquaint yourself with the characters who may be extracting concessions from Theresa May in the very near future.

https://www.facebook.com/maimkillrepeat/posts/10158923977220220

Emma Pengelly's damn good looking for a politician.

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I can't see this Con-DUP arrangement leading to anything very controversial. Looks like it will benefit NI money-wise.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby VizardAmata » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:17 pm

We've already seen the homophobic twat David Lidington appointed to Justice Secretary, and there's already talks of the time limit on abortions being reduced so I wouldn't be so sure about that.

May is gonna bargain this country back into the fucking dark ages.

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Matty_the_Emo_Slayer » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:53 pm

Metalchemyst wrote:
Matty_the_Emo_Slayer wrote:Here's some handy flashcards/Top Trumps for those who want to acquaint yourself with the characters who may be extracting concessions from Theresa May in the very near future.

https://www.facebook.com/maimkillrepeat/posts/10158923977220220

Emma Pengelly's damn good looking for a politician.

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I can't see this Con-DUP arrangement leading to anything very controversial. Looks like it will benefit NI money-wise.


Pure scum though, and it runs in her family. Her dad was a part of an attempted international arms deal in the late 80's with South Africa for stolen RAF missile technology. The DUP distanced themselves from the Ulster Resistance group after his arrest but it's always been obvious that Ian Paisley and Peter Robinson knew about and most likely ordered the deal. And they obviously didn't distance themselves so much that his daughter became their South Belfast candidate, with major electioneering support from UDA boss Jackie McDonald.

Though it's kind of hypocritical of me to judge her considering I fancy the pants off Michelle O'Neill from Sinn Fein who's father, uncle and at least two cousins were all provos.

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby NeglectedField » Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:31 pm

I was about to say, Michelle O'Neill, she's a sweetheart.

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Haldamir319 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:07 am

YouGov have released the voting demographic stats, and it's fascinating.

Labour actually got the highest vote share across all forms of employment and unemployment, except for the retired (who hugely voted Tory).

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Here's the link: https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/06/13/ho ... -election/

Specific employment status stats:

Retired: 63 CON / 24 LAB
Working, PT: 40 Tory / 44 Lab
Working, FT: 39 Tory / 45 Lab
Not working: 36 Tory / 48 Lab
Other: 33 Con / 55 Lab
Unemployed: 28 Con / 54 Lab
FT Student: 19 Con / 64 Lab
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Gandalf the Red » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:01 am

Take You Gov polls with the biggest pinch of salt you can find. It's entirely populated by people who participate because you get paid to participate in their polls.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Haldamir319 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:05 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I saw that Gandalf replied and I knew it would be a comment about the legitimacy of the polls.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Gandalf the Red » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:27 am

True though. You get paid a small amount for every poll you participate in. By people who are online and have loads of time to waste. After so many you get a fiver. Exit polls are much more reliable.

There was one meaningful vote and the Tories won whether you like it or not.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Bizza » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:21 am

Gandalf the Red wrote:
There was one meaningful vote and the Tories won whether you like it or not.


You lost 13 seats and your parliamentary majority in a totally unnecessary election but yea call that a win if you want :lol:
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Gandalf the Red » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:38 am

Bizza wrote:
Gandalf the Red wrote:
There was one meaningful vote and the Tories won whether you like it or not.


You lost 13 seats and your parliamentary majority in a totally unnecessary election but yea call that a win if you want :lol:


I didn't win. I didn't lose either. I wanted anyone but Corbyn and his deluded cronies. I would much rather have the Tories than that lot.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Tet » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:42 pm

Haldamir319 wrote:YouGov have released the voting demographic stats, and it's fascinating.

There are no official stats released for that (and rightly so). What YouGov are publishing is the results of a poll. Some polls are more accurate than others, but YouGov's certainly exhibit selection bias. I suspect it hints at the truth, but like Gandalf says, the results should be taken with a pinch of salt.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Gandalf the Red » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:52 pm

Tim Farron's gone.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Jobdone » Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:12 pm

In a statement, he said he was "torn between living as a faithful Christian and serving as a political leader".

He said he should have dealt "more wisely" with questions relating to his faith during the election campaign, including his views on gay sex.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40281300
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby houston4044 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:10 pm

I'm not too fussed about him going, given the ton (compared to the usual anyway) of PR he got this election he failed miserably. Alright, he's dusted off the party after 2015 but when you consider the golden opportunity this last election threw up, it smacks of a missed opportunity.

Saying that, quite thin on the ground in terms of viable leaders, Cable looks the obvious choice but that doesn't really inspire much.