The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

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How will you vote in the 2019 UK General Election?

Conservative
1
6%
Labour
6
38%
Liberal Democrat
4
25%
SNP
0
No votes
Brexit
1
6%
Green
2
13%
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Other
0
No votes
Won't Vote
2
13%
 
Total votes: 16

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Metalchemyst » Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:33 pm

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Haldamir319 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:20 am

Metalchemyst wrote:Try this quick test: https://www.psychologistworld.com/tests ... m-language


This is hilarious. It got me as 67% conservative... I'm fairly left wing.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Metalchemyst » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:17 pm

Haldamir319 wrote:
Metalchemyst wrote:Try this quick test: https://www.psychologistworld.com/tests ... m-language


This is hilarious. It got me as 67% conservative... I'm fairly left wing.
Left wing in what ways?
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Gandalf the Red » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:49 pm

It's just bog standard grammar traps.

For example.

A) Amanda is conservative.
B) Amanda is a conservative.

What does that even mean? Is she conservative when it comes to curtains or wallpaper? No bold choices, just beige...

Most people would pick A unless they mean the party. But the c is lower case which implies it's not talking about the political party.

Highlighting poor grammar in other words.

About as valid as those "tests" they have on the CBBC website to see what animal or cartoon character you are.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/cbbc/quizzes/type ... ity#filter
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Metalchemyst » Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:30 pm

^ The idea is that conservatives prefer clear, simple statements while liberals are more likely to beat around the bush in they way they write and speak. I've been reading some very interesting stuff on the general subject of liberals .V. conservatives:

https://onbeing.org/programs/jonathan-h ... s-oct2017/

". . . Psychologically, what we find empirically is that people who identify as conservative tend to like order and predictability, whereas people who identify as liberal, they like variety and diversity. I have one study where we have dots moving around on a screen. Conservatives like the images where the dots are moving around more in lockstep with each other. Liberals like it when it’s all chaotic and random.

. . . Jonathan Haidt does describe five primary moral foundations that are held across individuals and cultures. People who are liberal and conservative, he says, value two of these in common, compassion and fairness. But conservatives simultaneously juggle three other moral values — of loyalty, authority, and sanctity."

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Metalchemyst » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:03 pm

This is a proper test: https://www.idrlabs.com/morality/6/test.php

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Your morality is closest to that of a Conservative.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Metalchemyst » Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:46 pm

It's looking like 5 more years of a Conservative government, then 5 more after that if Labour insist on having a woman leader after Jeremy Corbyn.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby bloodofthekings » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:32 am

Metalchemyst wrote:It's looking like 5 more years of a Conservative government, then 5 more after that if Labour insist on having a woman leader after Jeremy Corbyn.


Why would having a female leader make a difference?

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Black Wizard » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:09 pm

It would only make a difference if that female leader is Diane Abbott, or perhaps Emily Thornberry.

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby bloodofthekings » Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:09 pm

Black Wizard wrote:It would only make a difference if that female leader is Diane Abbott, or perhaps Emily Thornberry.


There are many Labour voters (me included) who see Diane Abbott as a liability. Then again, in terms of gaffes and errors I would argue that Boris has been just as bad over the years.

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Metalchemyst » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:37 pm

bloodofthekings wrote:
Metalchemyst wrote:It's looking like 5 more years of a Conservative government, then 5 more after that if Labour insist on having a woman leader after Jeremy Corbyn.

Why would having a female leader make a difference?

I didn't mean that Labour couldn't have a good female leader in theory - just that the ones now being talked about as successors to Corbyn are not impressive.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby kanet666 » Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:17 pm

I can't believe that we're in a country where people can watch Boris fumble his way through questions and we're still talking about him taking a majority.

I don't especially like Corbyn but of the two only one of them has actually answered any questions, and at the very least will let people make a decision rather than just sleepwalk off a potential cliff-edge.

Swinson basically suicide bombed any chance of the Lib Dems taking a sizeable chunk in this election too. Will be an interesting, if terrifying election.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Gandalf the Red » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:19 pm

It's time to get rid of the multi-millionaire, public school educated, racist, serial womanizer who has never done a days work in his life.



Bye Corbyn. The revolver is in the draw....
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby metaldinosaur » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:38 am

It's not an enviable choice this election, but I'm willing to take a risk on Labours radical plans. It is a very big risk, however, and people should have their eyes open to that fact.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Cassius » Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:28 am

metaldinosaur wrote:It's not an enviable choice this election, but I'm willing to take a risk on Labours radical plans. It is a very big risk, however, and people should have their eyes open to that fact.


I dont think its all that radical in the grand scheme of things really.

Its a big change for the UK for sure and so there is risk in transitioning to that model if they win but pretty much all their policies are things that are working successfully in other countries. Its not some grand untested experiment that some people seem to be suggesting