The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

[Gandalf the Red]

Yeah. Let's make the Paras scapegoats after they retaliated after coming under attack.

We're not going to agree on this so I'm bailing out.

[Matty_the_Emo_Slayer]

I'd thought a Liverpool fan would have a bit more sympathy for people who've had their relatives' deaths whitewashed and their character slandered.

The parachute regiment murdered 14 unarmed people, most of them while running away. That's been proven by two government inquiries now so don't dare fucking try and contest it.

[houston4044]

Corbyn is tearing this thread apart, damn Lefties

[Andy (Dr Sin)]

You can't compare the two in my opinion.

One was people being killed in the confusion of the streets of terror.

The other a people killed in cold blood, for no reason.

Both tragedies, but you can't compare. But the fact that Corbyn wouldn't condem an organisation that killed kids in cold blood. How can you vote for a man like that?

How can you trust a man that said if there was a gunman slaughtering innocent people in the streets of the U.K., he wouldn't shoot to kill. He's just a dangerous, deluded, unhinged posh boy who has never seen the real world.

[kanet666]

You can't compare the two in my opinion.

One was people being killed in the confusion of the streets of terror.

The other a people killed in cold blood, for no reason.

Both tragedies, but you can't compare. But the fact that Corbyn wouldn't condem an organisation that killed kids in cold blood. How can you vote for a man like that?

How can you trust a man that said if there was a gunman slaughtering innocent people in the streets of the U.K., he wouldn't shoot to kill. He's just a dangerous, deluded, unhinged posh boy who has never seen the real world.

But bombing the crap out of places, knowing full well that innocent families and children are there within range, is better? Is there a good "reason" for their deaths?

Violence begets violence, and either diplomacy or intelligence is key to to preventing that cycle, not retaliating when time after time it has proven completely ineffective.

[Matty_the_Emo_Slayer]

Yeah the reason for my comparison was the corrupt way they were investigated and the demonization of the victims.

Also would people actually read Corbyn's statement? He condemns the Troubles as a whole, the media are getting on his case for not singling out the IRA as "the bad guy" in the conflict.

[Andy (Dr Sin)]

Please direct me to where I said it was "better"?

[NeglectedField]

ITT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6UhXivPyw4

[houston4044]

So that referendum eh?

[Haldamir319]

A friend of mine put it nicely the other day - 'The 'out' campaign is being spearheaded by the unholy trinity of Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and George Galloway - yep, that's the shot in the arm the 'in' campaign needed!'

[Jobdone]

Yeah I was proper confused by those choices.

When the biggest supporters of your campaign are a living muppet, a twat, and a man who pretended to be a cat on national tv, I don't know how that's supposed to bring people to your side.

http://www.newstatesman.com/sites/defau ... k=mjxNvdwI

Also Boris looks proper menacing in their ads.

[V-Man]

Why has he got a house brick?

[houston4044]

Farage was always going to be at the forefront of the out movement, this way he throws in his lot and becomes a non-entity afterwards (if your being cynical). That and he'll likely drag a good portion of last year's 3 million votes with him.

Galloway though has got to be the worst choices they could have made.

[Gandalf the Red]

Farage was always going to be at the forefront of the out movement, this way he throws in his lot and becomes a non-entity afterwards (if your being cynical). That and he'll likely drag a good portion of last year's 3 million votes with him.

Galloway though has got to be the worst choices they could have made.

No one chose Galloway (or anyone else really) he threw his hat in the ring. The Out campaign is severely fragmented into fringe groups who can't stand each other. Even those in the same party.

[Metalchemyst]

The few posts above suggest that the British public are not worthy of a referendum.

I'll predict the result now: 55% Stay, 45% Leave. I hope we get out though.

POLL TRACKER: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... /poll.html