The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

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How will you vote in the 2017 UK General Election?

Conservative
9
20%
Labour
21
46%
Liberal Democrat
10
22%
SNP
1
2%
UKIP
2
4%
Green
1
2%
Other
1
2%
Won't Vote
1
2%
 
Total votes: 46

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Gandalf the Red » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:07 pm

Probably because when you are young you have ideas, beliefs and a view that everything can be lovely with rainbow coloured unicorns.

Then reality hits.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby houston4044 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:46 pm

I don't think Rajoy can really use the line that the Catalonia vote was a "mockery of democracy" when he sent in the police who pulled people out of voting stations, beat them with batons and shot them with rubber bullets to prevent them voting; kind of rubs salt in the wound.

The slogan "strong and stable" is the gift that keeps on giving for Theresa May, satirists must be having a field day.

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby bloodofthekings » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:31 pm

Gandalf the Red wrote:Probably because when you are young you have ideas, beliefs and a view that everything can be lovely with rainbow coloured unicorns.

Then reality hits.


Or a big fat dose of cynicism and begrudging acceptance. If you're old enough to work and pay tax (so, 16) then you're old enough to vote on all matters relating to how that tax is spent, and could be spent in the future. I've met plenty of older people who are just as politically ignorant as some teenagers are.

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Gandalf the Red » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:18 pm

But how many 16 to 17 year old school leavers are actually paying tax? Very few. Especially since you don't pay Income Tax under a certain level now and most 16/17 YOs are working in MW jobs that won't even get close to that level.

Most of the ones who are paying tax probably got the job because of Daddy, and I doubt many of those are going to be voting Labour.
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby houston4044 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:06 pm

Don't think my political views have changed much since I was 16, haven't particularly altered any views that I can think of. Admittedly I think the only major change would be a change in my priorities but the views themselves haven't changed.

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Metalchemyst » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:14 am

Proportional representation was debated on Monday after one of those on-line Government petitions:

https://www.makevotesmatter.org.uk/news ... ary-debate
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby houston4044 » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:29 pm

With yet more off shore tax scandals hitting the headlines, it always reminds me of George Osbourne arguing that lowering the top tier tax rate would stop this sort of thing, that worked out well :lol:

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Metalchemyst » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:59 pm

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Metalchemyst » Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:17 pm

A letter I saw about the Ireland/N.Ireland border issue:

What’s all this nonsense from the Irish about no hard border? I lived in Londonderry from 1969 to 1972 and the customs posts on the main roads opened at 8am and closed at 6pm. The rest of the time the border was wide open. There were hundreds of roads crossing the border without any controls. I once saw pigs being smuggled across along a back road.

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Metalchemyst » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:56 am

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Gandalf the Red » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:20 am

I can't believe that Labour supporters are still voting in this poll. You can vote on here as much as you want, Labour aren't going to win the 2017 election. :lol:
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Metalchemyst » Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:34 pm

Are any of you gonna vote in the local elections? Only the Lib-Lab-Con are up in my area so I'm not going to bother.

https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/loc ... and-wales/
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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby ScrumpiesVeteran » Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:56 am

Definitely. It's a weird one for me, because centrally I would vote Conservative, but in respect of local Councillors, the Labour Councillors in South Leeds do a really good job for us locally.

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby houston4044 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:48 pm

So May's been left Rudderless then... I'll see myself out

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Re: The UK political thread (formerly independence thread)

Postby Gandalf the Red » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:06 pm

Careful now. Sajid Javid is a Sontaran. :lol:

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