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[Gandalf the Red]

It may of been the Slayer one I'm thinking of.


Anyway that BLT I've just had was delicious. Nom Nom Nom.

[cthulhu]

Simon Hall
10 hrs ·

I hereby plead the fifth ... I know nothing .... don't ask me.

that pretty much seals it for me.

[cthulhu]

[cthulhu]

^^^^
From some bloke on the facebook page

[Gandalf the Red]

From two pages back.

Just received new copy of metal hammer and in it there is a new BOA advert with black label society in line up with own logo so I presume sunday special guest ???

[someone else]

Didn't they do the same with Lamb Of God revealing all in an interview in a magazine that was printed before the announcement? Or was it someone else?

I know Metal Hammer leaked the Slayer announcement on their website somehow, not sure about the L.O.G. thing.

iirc the Machine Head one was published in a mag before the official press release

[mathewxentrix88]

If BLS are special guests on Sunday then the Sophie Stage is gonna have to be pretty special for me to bother with that day at all at this rate......

[Soze]

Yes, the Sunday is pretty horrible already without BLS being added! I'd only be keen for Ensiferum and Orange Goblin and the former aren't that great live. A shame because Friday and Saturday, headliners aside, are quite strong for my tastes.

[Haldamir319]

I'm judging my anticipation of RZ based on their very good set at Download a few years back (when they brought the full stage production), and not on what I saw at Hellfest last year (when they played in the middle of the day, with negligible props, iffy sound and didn't give much of a damn).

Granted, RZ is probably the act that could sway the most heavily either way in terms of entertainment (I call it the 'Motorhead live effect' >_>).

Sunday also has Agalloch, which should be good (despite not being in a tent!).

[VizardAmata]

Sunday is looking so shit for me at the moment. Praying for decent Sophie bands.

[Chugging Pus]

Can't be arsed to print screen etc... but if you look on Bloodbath's page, you'll see Bloodstock actually said no to booking them.

[houston4044]

Even going along with your argument that Label (if I can't abbreviate it I'm sure as hell not writing it long hand) and RZ are the same size, RZ would get put above them because his stage show is much bigger, can't see Label following that.

But anyway, to put it an easy way
RZ subbed the mainstage last year at Download
BLS played 4th from top at Download last year
CC didn't headline Damnation last year

That's without comparing the size of venues those bands play

Good post on the second half here, especially when you consider Damnation is both a lot smaller and a lot poorer (financially speaking) even compared to BoA.

Although you don't get to have a higher slot because of a stage show you get to have a stage show because of a higher slot...well a good stage show anyway, all about the money to do it and you only get that money and the festivals permission from your status.

What I meant by it was that, going along the argument that Label and RZ are equal in size (which I don't think is right, think RZ is bigger) then unless one of the acts demands the headline spot or demands way too much to not be the headliner, then you would imagine that the act with the biggest/most expensive stage show would get the nod.

Either way I think it's a moot point, I think RZ is bigger.

[cthulhu]

What I meant by it was that, going along the argument that Label and RZ are equal in size (which I don't think is right, think RZ is bigger) then unless one of the acts demands the headline spot or demands way too much to not be the headliner, then you would imagine that the act with the biggest/most expensive stage show would get the nod.

Either way I think it's a moot point, I think RZ is bigger.

Ohhhhhh I see what you're saying now, yeah if they're equal size the stage show would likely put RZ on the top spot anyway based off the effort required needing a larger set up and pack down time. I was misunderstanding you my apologies there. I also think that whilst they're fairly close in terms of size that you're probably right about Zombie likely being the larger band.

[Beardy]

Also, am I the only one who thinks Cannibal Corpse are probably a bigger name than BLS?

Yes. They're not even close to the same level. Black Label Society are much, much bigger.

Really? Aside from a brief period where one of their songs (Concrete Jungle or something like that maybe) was played a bit, I've genuinely not heard much about them - noone raves about them, noone plays their songs, noone I know goes to see them. Apparently they've been on tour lately? I've seen absolutely nothing about it, anywhere. Might just be the circles I run in, all I really know about them is that they are Zakk Wylde's band.

In all honesty, I was surprised when I saw they were due to play venues like the 'big' Manchester Academy and the Roundhouse next month. Last time I paid them any attention they were due to play the same venue that Amon Amarth and At The Gates have both recently played in Manchester (until it was cancelled due to angry bikers) and there were still tickets available on the day. I haven't noticed any particular increase in popularity for them since, in fact the general reaction to them seems to be "meh, are they still going?" at best... I guess they appeal to a very different audience than me or most of my circle of friends.

[strangeasangels]

Granted, RZ is probably the act that could sway the most heavily either way in terms of entertainment (I call it the 'Motorhead live effect' >_>).
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I've always found Motorhead to be unfathomably dull live and Rob Zombie just plain old shit.

As for BLS, last time I saw them, Zakk Wylde wasted a third of the set with pointless guitar solos and pretending to drink beer. Since then their recorded output has been mediocre to be kind.