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Re: Sophie stage headliners

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:52 pm
by houston4044
wolflord wrote:I think that too many people who go to Bloodstock and the Bloodstock organisers are viewing to Sophie Lancaster stage all wrong. Instead of treating it as a second or lesser stage it should be a stage that is an alternative to what is going on at the main stage. All this talk of “oh that band is too big to play on the Sophie Stage” is rubbish. As has been mentioned in other posts, the Sophie stage would be perfect for certain bands or genres/sub genres of metal. European festivals use this idea effectively and the atmosphere of tent based stages works well for some bands that may not work out in the open on the main stage; this should not mean that bands playing the Sophie stage are not worthy of the main stage or are less than those on the main stage. For the past few years some of the best bands I have seen at Bloodstock have been on the Sophie stage as opposed to the Main stage.

Black metal and Doom metal would work and benefit the most from this idea but the Sophie stage does not and should not be an area just for those sub genres, otherwise the purpose of having a different stage would be lost and it would become too detached from the rest of the festival. Generally putting on a band that is different to what is playing the main stage could attract those who are not bothered with what is currently on the main stage.

Either Taake or Carpathian Forest would make good headline acts for the Sophie stage, I know they are both black metal examples but they are just ideas I think would work.

This is just my opinion from what i have experienced at Bloodstock and other festivals, i know some may completely disagree, that's fine but an improved view of the Sophie stage would help the festival as a whole


While I agree with the sentiment, you've got to accept the practicalities of the situation that the Sophie stage is far smaller than the mainstage; so you've got to juggle bands that are a) good (though many would argue bloodstock fall at the first hurdle here) b) of a different genre to the mainstage and c) of a relative size (not too big that people are stuck outside or too small where no one wants to see them and complain a 'viable alternative' wasn't booked.

Re: Sophie stage headliners

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:10 am
by Gandalf the Red
You've got to realise that the Sophie Stage is much smaller than the equivalent at say Wacken or Hellfest. Even the fourth stage at Wacken is much bigger. Putting bigger bands on would cause a health and safety nightmare.

Re: Sophie stage headliners

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:49 am
by GTFCMike
Make the Sophie tent bigger?

Re: Sophie stage headliners

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:59 am
by Gandalf the Red
All costs money though.

Re: Sophie stage headliners

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:30 pm
by tmcgoay
GTFCMike wrote:Make the Sophie tent bigger?


with attendance increasing each year, eventually they will have to look at this.

Re: Sophie stage headliners

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:21 pm
by houston4044
GTFCMike wrote:Make the Sophie tent bigger?


You'll have to wait I imagine until overall attendance increases to pay for that :P

Re: Sophie stage headliners

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:09 am
by BLAKEYBLOKIZARD
Gandalf the Red wrote:All costs money though.

Ticket prices go up every year so this should not be a problem. I thought it was strange that they turned the New blood stage into a circus tent before upgrading the Sophie stage considering how packed it can get for anyone popular. Remember Evil Scarecrow last year? You couldn't even get inside...

Re: Sophie stage headliners

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:10 am
by Kanwulf
BLAKEYBLOKIZARD wrote:
Gandalf the Red wrote:All costs money though.

Ticket prices go up every year so this should not be a problem. I thought it was strange that they turned the New blood stage into a circus tent before upgrading the Sophie stage considering how packed it can get for anyone popular. Remember Evil Scarecrow last year? You couldn't even get inside...



I think that was more down to how ridiculously hot the marquee got.

Re: Sophie stage headliners

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:04 am
by Gandalf the Red
BLAKEYBLOKIZARD wrote:
Gandalf the Red wrote:All costs money though.

Ticket prices go up every year so this should not be a problem. I thought it was strange that they turned the New blood stage into a circus tent before upgrading the Sophie stage considering how packed it can get for anyone popular. Remember Evil Scarecrow last year? You couldn't even get inside...


Ticket prices go up because of inflation and normal costs going up. If you want better infrastructure* then you'll see a huge price increase on top of the normal increase. So expect your tickets to rise by something like £50 or £60. Which puts it in the Download and Sonisphere price bracket.

People are also asking for bigger bands in the tent as well. Unfortunately for the festival organisers, unlike unsigned bands, they don't play for free.



*A bigger stage either inside or out of a tent would also involve bigger PA and sound equipment, lighting, etc. As well as an increase in staff and security.

Re: Sophie stage headliners

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:19 am
by VizardAmata
Blake_Porter wrote:
BLAKEYBLOKIZARD wrote:
Gandalf the Red wrote:All costs money though.

Ticket prices go up every year so this should not be a problem. I thought it was strange that they turned the New blood stage into a circus tent before upgrading the Sophie stage considering how packed it can get for anyone popular. Remember Evil Scarecrow last year? You couldn't even get inside...



I think that was more down to how ridiculously hot the marquee got.


Oh god yeah, that was horrible. It was like walking into a wall of solid heat going in there.

Re: Sophie stage headliners

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:13 pm
by strangeasangels
Anaal Nathrakh just announced for Wacken. If they're about in August, they could be a good second stage headliner.

Re: Sophie stage headliners

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:42 pm
by Chugging Pus
Devilment, Hell and Tyr to headline the Sophie stage would make me happy and the bands are probably about the right size.

Re: Sophie stage headliners

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:45 pm
by Kanwulf
Chugging Pus wrote:Devilment, Hell and Tyr to headline the Sophie stage would make me happy and the bands are probably about the right size.


Cant see Hell headlining the second stage after two very successful main stage slots. Would like the other two though.

Re: Sophie stage headliners

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:48 pm
by Chugging Pus
I think it would be about right actually, and worth it for them to get a full hour set (although no idea on the rules about pyro on the Sophie stage).

Re: Sophie stage headliners

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:48 pm
by Kanwulf
Ive not seen any pyros yet so I imagine its prohibited