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Re: My line-up for Bloodstock 2015

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 5:26 pm
by Gandalf the Red
I think WT are less of a risky booking than Rob Zombie. Fans from the era that he was popular have moved on to other things and the younger generation probably only really know him as a film maker.

Generalisations I know, but I've been talking to quite a few people and he's hardly an act that anyone seems interested in (even the Download goers that I know aren't bothered).

Re: My line-up for Bloodstock 2015

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:03 pm
by SamB14
Tet wrote:
i0th wrote:Nightwish (nailed on for next year surely?).

I wouldn't bet on it. When Within Temptation fall flat on their faces this year, as I think they inevitably will due to the rest of the Saturday lineup, it'll be all too easy for them to turn around and claim that sort of metal isn't what the Bloodstock audience wants.


Why wouldn't they go down well? Biggest band on the line up by far(Rob Zombie aside). Maybe Saturday will be full of WT fans and the under card on main will go down badly? If they aren't the main attraction then what else is pulling in the(or a large percantage of ) the12-15k crowd? Certainly none of the under card are big enough surely?

Re: My line-up for Bloodstock 2015

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:23 pm
by Skippy
SamB14 wrote:
Tet wrote:
i0th wrote:Nightwish (nailed on for next year surely?).

I wouldn't bet on it. When Within Temptation fall flat on their faces this year, as I think they inevitably will due to the rest of the Saturday lineup, it'll be all too easy for them to turn around and claim that sort of metal isn't what the Bloodstock audience wants.


Why wouldn't they go down well? Biggest band on the line up by far(Rob Zombie aside). Maybe Saturday will be full of WT fans and the under card on main will go down badly? If they aren't the main attraction then what else is pulling in the(or a large percantage of ) the12-15k crowd? Certainly none of the under card are big enough surely?

If they are, then there was no reason to start booking the likes of Trivium in the first place...who, lets face it, are probably the biggest attraction (too many of my friends going are only really interested in them). I kind of agree with Tet, Within Temptation might not get a tiny crowd, but I think of the three headliners they'll get the worst reaction, if only because the rest of the day is filled with the exact opposite of what people who like them would want.

Re: My line-up for Bloodstock 2015

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:58 pm
by houston4044
SamB14 wrote:
Tet wrote:
i0th wrote:Nightwish (nailed on for next year surely?).

I wouldn't bet on it. When Within Temptation fall flat on their faces this year, as I think they inevitably will due to the rest of the Saturday lineup, it'll be all too easy for them to turn around and claim that sort of metal isn't what the Bloodstock audience wants.


Why wouldn't they go down well? Biggest band on the line up by far(Rob Zombie aside). Maybe Saturday will be full of WT fans and the under card on main will go down badly? If they aren't the main attraction then what else is pulling in the(or a large percantage of ) the12-15k crowd? Certainly none of the under card are big enough surely?


I'd say the undercard has a few gems that will be crowd pullers (if only to the for sake of a better term traditional "non-Download" audience) in Dark Angel (first UK show in years), Nuclear Assault (on their last tour) Armoured Saint (first UK tour in awhile) Ne Obliviscaris (first UK show) and Ihsahn (second ever UK show). They won't pull in a 12-15k crowd but I'd imagine they would sway alot of people on the fence into going.

Re: My line-up for Bloodstock 2015

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:52 am
by Gandalf the Red
I think you've also got to remember the fact that most people will be there for the weekend rather that just on a day ticket. Saturday maybe poor for some people, Sunday is weak for me.

Even if you are coming on a day ticket, how many times have you paid well over £60+ to see a band you really want to see when you factor in travel and accommodation? Hell I've paid that much just getting to London before today.

Re: My line-up for Bloodstock 2015

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:34 pm
by Tet
SamB14 wrote:Why wouldn't they go down well? Biggest band on the line up by far(Rob Zombie aside).

Probably bigger than Rob Zombie, to be honest.

SamB14 wrote:Maybe Saturday will be full of WT fans and the under card on main will go down badly?

It could work out that way. But the empirical evidence I have tends to suggest otherwise. They pulled in 9000+ at Wembley last year. Of those, how many do you think will come to Bloodstock? I'd say it's going to be quite a low percentage, and the reason is that there aren't any other bands they want to see. I personally know several people that would like to see them and would consider buying a ticket, but have been put off by the rest of the bill and can't justify the cost of a weekend or even a day ticket, just to see one band (or perhaps 2 or 3 over the weekend).

Re: My line-up for Bloodstock 2015

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:34 pm
by SamB14
Tet wrote:
SamB14 wrote:Why wouldn't they go down well? Biggest band on the line up by far(Rob Zombie aside).

Probably bigger than Rob Zombie, to be honest.

SamB14 wrote:Maybe Saturday will be full of WT fans and the under card on main will go down badly?

It could work out that way. But the empirical evidence I have tends to suggest otherwise. They pulled in 9000+ at Wembley last year. Of those, how many do you think will come to Bloodstock? I'd say it's going to be quite a low percentage, and the reason is that there aren't any other bands they want to see. I personally know several people that would like to see them and would consider buying a ticket, but have been put off by the rest of the bill and can't justify the cost of a weekend or even a day ticket, just to see one band (or perhaps 2 or 3 over the weekend).


Yeah good point, although i am one of those coming mainly for them. I do like Trivium,Delain(bad clash!!),Sabaton and Enisifrum aswell though so it's worth the price. I don't know most of the other bands really but will check them out.

I do hope WT go down well though, would be a shame if not.

Re: My line-up for Bloodstock 2015

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:10 pm
by houston4044
someone else wrote:It will be interesting, but WT and NW are so much bigger than the rest of the female fronted metal bands (Delain and Epica are probably on the next rung down, but are both much smaller) that it can't be just be 'genre fans' that are buying their tickets, but fans of metal in general, that will buy a 'bit of this, bit of that'. I think they will go down fine.


That's got me thinking, even though BOA have booked arguably one of the biggest (or the biggest I don't know) band of that genre, they are over-exposed in the UK and that's going to dilute their draw. How many genre fans as you put it are going to go to BOA because of WT when they've played the UK a lot in the last year? It's like Slipknot at Download....