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Re: Next announcement

Postby houston4044 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:35 pm

JD_B3E5 wrote: I saw Power Trip on the Persistence tour last night and they're definitely something special.


They stole the show last night :D Think they would work well as one of the first bands on the main stage or a decent mid afternoon Sophie stage slot.

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Kreator, Megadeth, Havok, Xentrix, Testament and Municipal Waste (although the latter sometimes get called crossover or whatever, they still sound thrash to me!). You could also make a reasonable argument for Annihilator and Possessed (who were always called thrash back in the day).


I'd class them all as thrash myself, they may have dropped in and out of the genre in the past but most of the material they're known for is certainly thrash.

They don't have to be big* bands either, I'd be happy with the likes of Power Trip, Skeletonwitch, Toxic Holocaust, Harlott et al. Bands who would be early on main or mid-day Sophie bands.

Saying this, now we know how the power metal fans must have felt all these years, even I've said in the past BOA should of thrown them a bone or two while we were getting plenty of thrash.


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Re: Next announcement

Postby Gandalf the Red » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:45 pm

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Gandalf the Red wrote:I reckon that Thrash has been very poorly represented for the last few years. Most of the bands that are getting called Thrash aren't even Thrash. It seems that if they are "a bit noisy" then they must be Thrash. :rolleyes:


Kreator, Megadeth, Havok, Xentrix, Testament and Municipal Waste (although the latter sometimes get called crossover or whatever, they still sound thrash to me!). You could also make a reasonable argument for Annihilator and Possessed (who were always called thrash back in the day).


I did say "poorly" represented....

Half a dozen bands on a festival that has over a hundred known bands on!

Yet loads of Metalcore, Stoner, Groove, Hardcore, Punk, etc.



And it's always "full" of Thrash Metal bands!!!
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Re: Next announcement

Postby Skippy » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:10 am

Gandalf the Red wrote:
Soze wrote:
Gandalf the Red wrote:I reckon that Thrash has been very poorly represented for the last few years. Most of the bands that are getting called Thrash aren't even Thrash. It seems that if they are "a bit noisy" then they must be Thrash. :rolleyes:


Kreator, Megadeth, Havok, Xentrix, Testament and Municipal Waste (although the latter sometimes get called crossover or whatever, they still sound thrash to me!). You could also make a reasonable argument for Annihilator and Possessed (who were always called thrash back in the day).


I did say "poorly" represented....

Half a dozen bands on a festival that has over a hundred known bands on!

Yet loads of Metalcore, Stoner, Groove, Hardcore, Punk, etc.



And it's always "full" of Thrash Metal bands!!!

You have got to be absolutely joking. It is a festival with over a hundred bands on, but he's only named the known bands on the main stages. Looking at the bottom there are just as many more. Jesus you can make that argument for any genre - there's only a handful of "known" metal bands in general at the festival!

Trash has been completely over-represented for years at Bloodstock. Compared to the other genres you've mentioned, only stoner comes close to the amount Bloodstock book, and those are only the smaller bands that fill the smaller stages - well known stoner isn't booked too much any year. The only genre that beats it is death metal, which is far too overbooked. For all the hardcore crap that gets booked every year, they don't come close to the number of thrash bands. And for me, thrash is almost as boring.
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Re: Next announcement

Postby Gandalf the Red » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:48 am

Think of it this way.

I had seen most of last years line up before the festival at other events. So yes they are known bands seeing as I've not gone to Outer Mongolia to see them. Nor have to listen to some obscure radio channel to hear them.


This year there is only three mainstage bands that I've not seen previously. Combichrist (who I'm very aware of), Mr Big (can't stand) and Jasta (who are just Hatebreed). Plus three others that I don't really know, but are on the other stage, but I've heard of.

I seriously reckon that anyone that doesn't know the bands on the line up needs to get out more. Or go on the internet....
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Re: Next announcement

Postby Skippy » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:32 am

I don't care how known bands are. Last year I knew a few. I didn't know all of the bottom stage because occasionally I DO actually get out. The point is the top few stages are filled up with far more thrash bands than any other genre (barring death, as I said). You are saying half a dozen out of hundreds, but that isn't the argument - there were seven mainstage bands last year that are deemed to be thrash. Nearly a full day. That includes each of the top three slots. There being a less this year is absolutely warranted.
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Re: Next announcement

Postby houston4044 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:27 am

Skippy wrote:There being a less this year is absolutely warranted.


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Postby Soze » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:31 am

Hey, I'm an 80s teenager, I'd be happy with Thrashstock! But 7 out of 30 mainstage bands were thrash last year, that's almost a quarter of the line up, I can easily see why people who aren't fans of the genre would complain.

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Re: Next announcement

Postby Killing_time » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:04 pm

Thrash is dead
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Death to Power Pop!! It should go down with the sinking ship that is Download festival.

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Postby Soze » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:15 pm

Killing_time wrote:Thrash is dead


Proclaiming thrash is dead with a Korn banner...have you fallen through a crack in time from 1997?!

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Re: Next announcement

Postby Killing_time » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:14 pm

Korn are still relevant
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Re: Next announcement

Postby Jay1993 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:46 pm

I do agree that thrash has been over represented on the main stage in the years I've attended (13, 14, 16 & 17). Last year was quite death heavy on the Friday too. I would argue that the most under represented genre in terms of well known bands is stoner/doom with Corrosion of Conformity being the only band close to that genre that I've seen at BOA! Folk is also very much overlooked. Although I'm a big thrash fan, I'm liking that the line up this year isn't a complete thrash fest, I'm liking the variety so far!

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Re: Next announcement

Postby Soze » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:48 pm

Killing_time wrote:Korn are still relevant


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Re: Next announcement

Postby dclizardking » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:10 pm

Doom has been massively overlooked on the mainstage, just remember this festival has never in the whole time it's been running booked Electric Wizard, one of the biggest and most obvious choices, Witchcraft, and Candlemass have only played once a piece and surely the likes of St Vitus, Pentagram, Trouble, Monster Magnet, The Obsessed, or Sleep have entered into someone's thoughts at some point. I've no idea if there are reasons for it, or if they simply don't work out for whatever reason.

As for Folk Metal, that seemed to enjoy a spell about 6 or 7 years ago of being heavily booked and always went down a storm, Turisas, Finntroll, Koriklaani etc all had good crowds and really got them going, but recently the bookers have for whatever reason largely ignored the genre. I understand the festival's need to keep growing and developing but it just seems a shame that a lot of good music is going under the radar these days, to be replaced by more metalcore and nu metal bands. I guess that's all about the festival's growth. There are still some top notch bands to be caught on the New Blood and Sophie stages though, which is probably where I'll be spending a lot of my time.

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Re: Next announcement

Postby bloodblind » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:51 pm

Power trip would be excellent. Would love to see someone like Hooded Menace, Temple of Void or Acid witch

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Re: Next announcement

Postby houston4044 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:13 pm

Soze wrote:Hey, I'm an 80s teenager, I'd be happy with Thrashstock! But 7 out of 30 mainstage bands were thrash last year, that's almost a quarter of the line up, I can easily see why people who aren't fans of the genre would complain.


That's the thing though, it was top heavy; when you look at the line up as a whole (why ignore the other 2 stages?) it wasn't overly prevalent as there wasn't all that much on the other 2 stages (7 more by my account across 2 other stages) that's 14 bands in total. If people can't be bothered to check out the other stages then that's their fault rather than a case of one particular genre being over represented.

Jay1993 wrote: I would argue that the most under represented genre in terms of well known bands is stoner with Corrosion of Conformity being the only band close to that genre that I've seen at BOA!


Eh? Just off the top of my head theres been Gurt, Iron Rat, Left for Red, Black Moth and Ohhms. There's plenty of stoner metal at BOA.

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As for Folk Metal seemed to enjoy a spell about 6 or 7 years ago of being heavily booked...but recently the bookers have for whatever reason largely ignored the genre.


I think the people who booked the festival (Vince?) stepped down and his kids took over as the bookers which would explain the change in direction.