Gandalf the Red wrote: bloodofthekings wrote:
Black Wizard wrote:
Which bands from previous Bloodstock line-ups do you consider to be "Download crap"?
Oh good lord don't open that box. I imagine the answer you'll get is bands like Machine Head, Trivium, Devil Driver, Fozzy, etc.
Of course the whole argument of what constitutes a 'Download band' and what constitutes a 'Bloodstock band' is a pointless one anyway, not just because Bloodstock have diversified their booking policy in the last 10 years but so have Download. There have been plenty of 'Bloodstock bands' that have played Download over the years (Sabaton, Turisas, Nightwish, Within Temptation, Kreator, Opeth, etc.) so the whole argument is stupid anyway.
As someone who attended several of the Bloodstock indoor festivals way back when, I have just as much (if not more) of a gripe with bands like Immortal, Nile, Mayhem, Cannibal Corpse, Obituary, etc. ('Damnation crap'
) taking up slots on the Bloodstock line-up these days as I do with the aforementioned 'Download bands'.
Like there wasn't Death and Black Metal bands on the first Bloodstock....
Learn your history. Bloodstock was NEVER a Power Metal festival. In fact there was only one PM band on the first one, being Primal Fear. There was far more what you are describing as "Damnation bands" playing.
Sabbat, Skyclad, Orange Goblin, Underule, Evoke, Consumed, Occupational Hazard, Bloodstream, Freebase.
The rest was traditional Metal and Rock Bands.
Attended the early ones? I'm calling bullshit.
Firstly, I never said it was a solely power metal festival, but it was far more concerned with melodic bands than black/death metal bands like the ones I previously mentioned. Sure, there was the odd one on the smaller stage but I'm not talking about small second-stage bands that aren't even around any more and faded away without anyone noticing - I'm talking about the main stage and the upper end of the second stage. I maintain that you would have never have seen the likes of Nile, Mayhem, Immortal, Cannibal Corpse and Obituary on those early indoor line-ups.
Secondly, I attended the indoor festivals in 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2006 as well as the first two outdoor festivals, so you can shove your 'bullshit' claim.
As for the line-ups of the indoor festivals, let's have a look at the main bands shall we? (again, I'm not gonna bother with the small bands at the bottom of the second stage - they aren't the ones selling tickets)
2001 - Saxon, Glenn Hughes, Blaze, Skyclad, Primal Fear, Orange Goblin, Return to the Sabbat
2002 - Blind Guardian, Gamma Ray, Diamond Head, Threshold, Balance of Power, Freedom Call, Return to the Sabbat, Elvenking, Bal-Sagoth, Primordial
2003 - Saxon, Blaze, Power Quest, Nightwish, Paradise Lost, Edguy, Masterplan, Saracen, Dragonforce, Biomechanical, Waylander
2004 - Gamma Ray, Threshold, Sinergy, Children of Bodom, Sonata Arctica, Primal Fear, Balance of Power, Evergrey, Edenbridge, Fourway Kill, Cruachan
2005 - Hammerfall, Stormwarrior, Metalium, Conquest of Steel, Warchild, Within Temptation, Amon Amarth, After Forever, Bob Catley, Raven, Iron Savior, Cathedral
2006 - Primal Fear, Axel Rudi Pell, Majesty, Savage Circus, Marshall Law, My Dying Bride, Deathstars, Onslaught, Brainstorm, Ominium, Gatherum
Hardly looks like a Damnation line-up does it? In fact, of all of those bands, I can pick out about 5 or 6 that have actually played Damnation in the past and even they are the more melodic end of what Damnation books.
When you compare those early indoor line-ups to what we have now, the irony is that we would probably both agree at how much Bloodstock line-ups have changed since then. My point is that the introduction of black/death/extreme bands has been responsible for as much of that change as what you would call 'Download bands'