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Re: The Book thread

Postby Czech's Mate » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:05 pm

Re reading The Book Of Dave by Will Self....and am enjoying it even more than the fist time I read it...which I find hard to believe, cos I loved it so much first time round
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Re: The Book thread

Postby Tet » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:38 am

Just finished "Gardens of the moon". Looks like I'll have to read the rest of the Malazan books now, too.

I've now started "A wise man's fear".
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Re: The Book thread

Postby MetalBeast » Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:47 pm

Fucking hell Atlas Shrugged is slow! I don't mind Rand's writing style, but I'm about 800 pages in and haven't had any real excitement...other than perhaps my alarm at her selfish, elitist, naive view of the world.

Thankfully, I'm nearing the end of the book.
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Re: The Book thread

Postby Matty_the_Emo_Slayer » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:29 pm

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Re: The Book thread

Postby Czech's Mate » Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:11 pm

Michel Houellebecq ...the map and the territory....bleak as fuck....
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Postby thehairyone » Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:22 pm

Tet wrote:Just finished "Gardens of the moon". Looks like I'll have to read the rest of the Malazan books now, too.

I've now started "A wise man's fear".


I couldn't get on with them. I have to give up halfway through three... or four. not sure. They all just blurred.


Currently on The Way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson - that man needs more awards. Lots more. Also, I'd like some of his ability to invent worlds, please. If he breaks from his usual trilogy method, these will challenge Wheel of Time.
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Re: The Book thread

Postby karastorm » Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:23 pm

Reading "snuff" at the moment and it's pretty damn well write considering the Author in question has Alzheimer's.

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Re: The Book thread

Postby Applecore » Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:11 am

Got Yahtzee Croshaw's new book "Jam" through the post this morning. Opened at the first page to have a look at his writing style and stuff. Before I knew it I'd finished the first chapter, just standing in my kitchen :lol:
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Re: The Book thread

Postby Bisset » Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:06 am

Just finished the Mistborn trilogy. Fucking spafftastic! I love Brandon Sanderson's writing style
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Re: The Book thread

Postby Metalchemyst » Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:30 pm

Aaaarrrrgggghhhh wrote:Will have to delve into Tolkien before the first Hobbit movie is released, even though I know them backwards.

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Re: The Book thread

Postby Matty_the_Emo_Slayer » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:31 pm

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Postby Fjar » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:20 pm

Decided I wanted to read The Hobbit again and got it on my Kindle in seconds. Score.
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Re: The Book thread

Postby MetalBeast » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:55 am

Finally finished Atlas Shrugged. It was slow going because I didn't really enjoy it and getting through it felt like a chore. Wanted to finish it though, to get a proper picture of why cunts like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh like it so much.

Even looking at it objectively, putting aside for a moment my disagreement with it's philosophy, I thought it was reasonably well written buy FUCKING slow. Hardly anything exciting happens until the last third of the book and the romance aspect of it is doesn't stir much emotion. The first two thirds could have been condensed into one and I dare say that the whole thing could easily have been done in half the word count (the book is 1168 pages and 500,000+ words - in the same ball-park as all three books of Lord of the Rings) - as long as John Galt's speech was left in tact, you could edit much of it down considerably.

From my own point of view, getting round to the philosophy, this book is very elitist and right wing, advocating laissez-faire capitalism and plutocracy.

According to Rand:
- Greed is good
- Robin Hood is the epitome of evil
- Help should only be given if the recipient is virtuous (e.g. the "deserving" poor)
- Justice is the opposite of charity
- Forgiveness is a sin
- Only the elite are capable of achieving anything and everyone else is incompetent
- The workers owe everything to the entrepreneurs that employ them

My point of view is very much at odds with all of that, which is one of the reasons I didn't enjoy the book.

It beggars belief that certain high profile Americans can advocate Rand's philosophy and still claim to be Christian, especially considering Anton Lavey used as the basis of much of his brand of Satanism - "Rand with ritual" is how he described it.

I wouldn't recommend reading this book. I wouldn't say "don't read it" either but, if you do, be prepared for a very hard slog - this book is to railways what Lord of the Rings is to walking...but without the scenery...or the monsters...or anything particularly exciting until the last third of the book. Also be prepared for a lot of right-wing dogma which, if you're left-wing, will stir the sort of hatred usually reserved for Margaret Thatcher.
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So relieved to be able to start reading something enjoyable again, gonna start on a Michael Moorcock anthology soon.

I am actually tempted to read Rand's "The Fountainhead" and "Anthem" at some point (thankfully they're much shorter than Atlas Shrugged) but that won't be anytime soon.

Probably gonna give "Atlas Drugged: Ayn Rand be Damned!" by Stephen Goldstien a go soonish though. :lol: Some consider Atlas Shrugged to be "beyond parody" so it'll be interesting to see someone having a go.
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Re: The Book thread

Postby Darkweasel » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:06 pm

Just got up to the dwarves meeting Beorn in The Hobbit.
Without doubt, the single most boring chapter of any book I've ever read ever.
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Re: The Book thread

Postby Bisset » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:41 pm

Darkweasel wrote:Just got up to the dwarves meeting Beorn in The Hobbit.
Without doubt, the single most boring chapter of any book I've ever read ever.


You sir, have obviously never read the Chronicles of Narnia. The entire run of books were dull as fook
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