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Re: Next announcement

Postby Soze » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:31 am

Hey, I'm an 80s teenager, I'd be happy with Thrashstock! But 7 out of 30 mainstage bands were thrash last year, that's almost a quarter of the line up, I can easily see why people who aren't fans of the genre would complain.

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Postby Killing_time » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:04 pm

Thrash is dead
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Death to Power Pop!! It should go down with the sinking ship that is Download festival.

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Postby Soze » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:15 pm

Killing_time wrote:Thrash is dead


Proclaiming thrash is dead with a Korn banner...have you fallen through a crack in time from 1997?!

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Re: Next announcement

Postby Killing_time » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:14 pm

Korn are still relevant
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Re: Next announcement

Postby Jay1993 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:46 pm

I do agree that thrash has been over represented on the main stage in the years I've attended (13, 14, 16 & 17). Last year was quite death heavy on the Friday too. I would argue that the most under represented genre in terms of well known bands is stoner/doom with Corrosion of Conformity being the only band close to that genre that I've seen at BOA! Folk is also very much overlooked. Although I'm a big thrash fan, I'm liking that the line up this year isn't a complete thrash fest, I'm liking the variety so far!

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Postby Soze » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:48 pm

Killing_time wrote:Korn are still relevant


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Re: Next announcement

Postby dclizardking » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:10 pm

Doom has been massively overlooked on the mainstage, just remember this festival has never in the whole time it's been running booked Electric Wizard, one of the biggest and most obvious choices, Witchcraft, and Candlemass have only played once a piece and surely the likes of St Vitus, Pentagram, Trouble, Monster Magnet, The Obsessed, or Sleep have entered into someone's thoughts at some point. I've no idea if there are reasons for it, or if they simply don't work out for whatever reason.

As for Folk Metal, that seemed to enjoy a spell about 6 or 7 years ago of being heavily booked and always went down a storm, Turisas, Finntroll, Koriklaani etc all had good crowds and really got them going, but recently the bookers have for whatever reason largely ignored the genre. I understand the festival's need to keep growing and developing but it just seems a shame that a lot of good music is going under the radar these days, to be replaced by more metalcore and nu metal bands. I guess that's all about the festival's growth. There are still some top notch bands to be caught on the New Blood and Sophie stages though, which is probably where I'll be spending a lot of my time.

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Re: Next announcement

Postby bloodblind » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:51 pm

Power trip would be excellent. Would love to see someone like Hooded Menace, Temple of Void or Acid witch

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Postby houston4044 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:13 pm

Soze wrote:Hey, I'm an 80s teenager, I'd be happy with Thrashstock! But 7 out of 30 mainstage bands were thrash last year, that's almost a quarter of the line up, I can easily see why people who aren't fans of the genre would complain.


That's the thing though, it was top heavy; when you look at the line up as a whole (why ignore the other 2 stages?) it wasn't overly prevalent as there wasn't all that much on the other 2 stages (7 more by my account across 2 other stages) that's 14 bands in total. If people can't be bothered to check out the other stages then that's their fault rather than a case of one particular genre being over represented.

Jay1993 wrote: I would argue that the most under represented genre in terms of well known bands is stoner with Corrosion of Conformity being the only band close to that genre that I've seen at BOA!


Eh? Just off the top of my head theres been Gurt, Iron Rat, Left for Red, Black Moth and Ohhms. There's plenty of stoner metal at BOA.

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As for Folk Metal seemed to enjoy a spell about 6 or 7 years ago of being heavily booked...but recently the bookers have for whatever reason largely ignored the genre.


I think the people who booked the festival (Vince?) stepped down and his kids took over as the bookers which would explain the change in direction.

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Re: Next announcement

Postby Jay1993 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:27 pm

bloodblind wrote:Power trip would be excellent. Would love to see someone like Hooded Menace, Temple of Void or Acid witch


Oh man Acid Witch would be awesome!

houston4044 wrote:Eh? Just off the top of my head theres been Gurt, Iron Rat, Left for Red, Black Moth and Ohhms. There's plenty of stoner metal at BOA.


Oh yeah there always tends to be a fair bit of stoner on the smaller stages, I was talking more about the lack of well known stoner bands like dclizardking mentioned. There's only really been COC, Down and Crowbar (more sludge) on the main stage over the years. I came across Atragon on the Jager stage last year though and they've become one of my favourite stoner bands! :yes:

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Re: Next announcement

Postby Black Wizard » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:41 am

Killing_time wrote:Thrash is dead

Killing_time wrote:Korn are still relevant

These two statements are total nonsense. Did you watch Kreator last year? So dead.

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Postby someone else » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:08 am

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Jay1993 wrote: I would argue that the most under represented genre in terms of well known bands is stoner with Corrosion of Conformity being the only band close to that genre that I've seen at BOA!


Eh? Just off the top of my head theres been Gurt, Iron Rat, Left for Red, Black Moth and Ohhms. There's plenty of stoner metal at BOA.

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There was the 'well known' caveat in there - most of those can't fill a phone box and lurk on all dayer bills in pubs. For main-stage it's been CoC, Down, Orange Goblin (who shed the stonery stuff ages ago but still have the association from the early albums) and Graveyard was busy when they moved into the tent. There's only a handful that have a big crossover with metal - Clutch being probably the biggest, then Monster Magnet, but as much as 'stoner' stuff is my main listening, I'd rather pay to see Desertfest do it well than BoA doing a half arsed attempt at being diverse by having token bands instead of metal ones that also lurk about in pubs.

As for doom, yep agree. More fitting with a metal festival than stoner and the likes of Trouble, Candlemass type bands are missing but when CM played HRH doom there were far fewer that night than at OG so even with a 10 quid ticket they're not much of a draw and I've been in half empty clubs for Pentgram (now depleted without Bobby), Vitus and anything Winos done.
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Re: Next announcement

Postby Cassius » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:00 pm

dclizardking wrote:As for Folk Metal, that seemed to enjoy a spell about 6 or 7 years ago of being heavily booked and always went down a storm, Turisas, Finntroll, Koriklaani etc all had good crowds and really got them going, but recently the bookers have for whatever reason largely ignored the genre.


Im probably biased as its my favourite genre but I do find the lack of bigger folk metal names in recent years pretty weird because when they did book it the bands always pulled big crowds.

Seems odd to just stop doing something that works

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Re: Next announcement

Postby someone else » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:04 pm

Well Devin Townsend has posted saying he's put DTP on ice and will be working on new projects. He won't be playing live till next year so he won't be SG
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Re: Next announcement

Postby CharlesDexterWard » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:26 pm

Devin certainly pissed on my chips with that announcement :(

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